goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
This_is_me
- 21 Nov 2012 18:45
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It all makes sense now. Gay marriage & marijuana being legalized on the same day.
Leviticus 20:13- "If a man lays with another man he should be stoned."
We were evidently just interpreting it wrong.
3 monkies
- 21 Nov 2012 22:44
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I like your post Greekman, try watching the leather jacket again and calm down. We cannot alter things and by all accounts you are retired so enjoy what you have now but I do understand it does not help whenst dealing with shrit for years. We will not alter it only put ourselves in early graves.
greekman
- 22 Nov 2012 07:10
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This is me,
I like your bible interpretation.
3 Monkies,
The problem I have is that, the more times I watch 'Black leather jacket' the more it winds me up.
What many people do not realise, is that if the present rate of child birth in the UK continues, by 2050 or earlier, there will be more muslims in this country than none muslims, and that forecast was not from a BNP type, but from a high ranking muslim.
I do not agree that we can not alter things and I am doing my bit by pushing the powers that be to do something, before is too late.
doodlebug
- 22 Nov 2012 10:55
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Not just this country greekman, there will eventually be more muslims than none muslims in every country in the world - total world domination.
greekman
- 22 Nov 2012 11:10
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You said it!
Most of them will probably be livng here on benifits!
2517GEORGE
- 22 Nov 2012 12:02
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Has anyone here used IWEB for sharedealing, if so would you recommend them.
2517
Stan
- 22 Nov 2012 12:17
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I used it when it was originally Imi web before it was taken over by the Halifax, but then withdrew all my money as I didn't trust Halifax's share-dealing competence from what I had heard of it. Still got the A/C as a sleeper and have considered reactivating it as they are offering a very low dealing charge right now, but not done anything about that so far. Sorry it doesn't exactly answer your Q. George but I'm more interested in the all round service which a Broker offers now rather then just the price aspect.
TANKER
- 22 Nov 2012 13:07
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George Osborne made a huge profit of £450,000 by selling his second home which was part paid for by the taxpayer, it was claimed today.
The Chancellor used Commons expenses to pay interest on the mortgage for the farmhouse in his Cheshire constituency.
He sold the property in January this year amid claims he was preparing for the Tatton seat to be abolished under plans to cut the number of MPs.
Mr Osborne bought the house at Harrop Fold Farm near Macclesfield for £445,000 in 2000.
Neighbours say that he sold the house for up to £900,000, the Daily Mirror reported.
Average house prices have more than doubled since 2000.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2236790/Osborne-400-000-profit-second-home-claimed-expenses-say-neighbours.html#ixzz2CxMXcwy2
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Haystack
- 22 Nov 2012 13:17
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Would the taxpayer have made up any loss he made due to needing a second hone? If not then it all sounds reasonable.
mnamreh
- 22 Nov 2012 13:27
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greekman
- 22 Nov 2012 14:07
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The problem is this.
New rules bought in after the expenses scandal no longer allow MPs to claim mortgage interest.
They have got round this by use of a legal (or at least a Government, looking after it's own rule) loop hole.
Quick example.
MP Smith owns a property in London which is next to an identical property owned by MP Brown.
Under current rules if both own the proerties, they can not cliam mortgage interest on expenses, if they live in their own property, they can not claim rent, as it is not allowed to pay yourself rent.
To get round this, both sell their properties to each other for the same price, so they make no gain or loss.
They can then rent from each other at the same price, claiming up to £1,400 pcm or £20,000 per year.
Of course these rents should be at the market price, but who is going to query a few thousand quid, and at London prices, its probably about right.
So if they rent to each other, they can both make £20,000 more than if they both live in their own owned property.
These are the same people that call companies 'morally currupt' when they use company tax loop holes.
And yes, if they need a second home and already own such, they would not get any expenses, apart from the usual household costs of energy bills and the like.
If they did not own such a property, they could then still rent, but there would be tighter control on this rent being treated as an expence if their landlords were not MP's .
It's the renting from each other, or the renting of a property that was originally owned, then sold to a company and rented back and the secracy of amount of rent paid that stinks.
And as Mnamreh states, any gain on a sale should be paid back, but without transparency, this is often not done, as several have admitted to not doing untill they are caught out.
As to any gain via the loop hole renting scheme, as its not elegal or against the rules, they do not have to pay it back, thats why they do it.
Anyone who can't see morally currupt similarities between these MP's and some companies, should look again!
2517GEORGE
- 22 Nov 2012 15:40
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Stan, thanks very much for your reply.
2517
TANKER
- 22 Nov 2012 17:19
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The Football Association clears Mark Clattenburg of using "inappropriate language" towards John Mikel Obi but charges the Chelsea player.
now lets see if the black football lawyers call for a 8 match ban .
or are they racist .or does it only work one way
and make the chelsea player pay him damages .
TANKER
- 22 Nov 2012 17:35
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if this had been a weaker person he could of taken is own life that is how bad this was .all players must think before they act.
so a ban and fine must be the call.
doodlebug
- 22 Nov 2012 20:50
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It only works one way Tanker, to answer your question. It's utterly appalling what Clattenburg has gone through in the last few weeks. A decent guy subjected to racist allegations, completely ill-founded. The black football lawyer involved in this case appeared on Sky news and was completely unapologetic.
Chris Carson
- 22 Nov 2012 21:44
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Referees decisions, irrespective whether correct or incorrect during a match should not be open to question by players imo. Never known a referee to change his mind no matter how many players protest, should make it a bookable offence or a straight red, that would soon put an end to this sort of nonsense. By the same token referees have to be accountable for those decisions, post match meetings would do the trick where the referees performance is judged. 4th official should be done away with they are just whipping boys a complete waste of time. Used to be judged insane if you were a player and asked to play in goal, current situation you must be insane to want to be a referee.
TANKER
- 23 Nov 2012 08:34
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doodle yes he was a piece of crap a very un honest person .
when are the FOOTBALL fans going to wake up to what is going on
the fans are treated like shit .
TANKER
- 23 Nov 2012 08:35
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wee will now see if the FA have any balls
skinny
- 23 Nov 2012 08:42
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TANKER
- 23 Nov 2012 09:45
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just watched sky news what a bloody disgrace CHELSEA FOOTBALL CLUB IS
THE CLUB IS A TOTAL DISGRACE .the fans should be proud of a disgusting club