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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

greekman - 22 Nov 2012 11:10 - 19115 of 81564

You said it!
Most of them will probably be livng here on benifits!

2517GEORGE - 22 Nov 2012 12:02 - 19116 of 81564

Has anyone here used IWEB for sharedealing, if so would you recommend them.
2517

Stan - 22 Nov 2012 12:17 - 19117 of 81564

I used it when it was originally Imi web before it was taken over by the Halifax, but then withdrew all my money as I didn't trust Halifax's share-dealing competence from what I had heard of it. Still got the A/C as a sleeper and have considered reactivating it as they are offering a very low dealing charge right now, but not done anything about that so far. Sorry it doesn't exactly answer your Q. George but I'm more interested in the all round service which a Broker offers now rather then just the price aspect.

TANKER - 22 Nov 2012 13:07 - 19118 of 81564

George Osborne made a huge profit of £450,000 by selling his second home which was part paid for by the taxpayer, it was claimed today.

The Chancellor used Commons expenses to pay interest on the mortgage for the farmhouse in his Cheshire constituency.

He sold the property in January this year amid claims he was preparing for the Tatton seat to be abolished under plans to cut the number of MPs.

Mr Osborne bought the house at Harrop Fold Farm near Macclesfield for £445,000 in 2000.

Neighbours say that he sold the house for up to £900,000, the Daily Mirror reported.

Average house prices have more than doubled since 2000.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2236790/Osborne-400-000-profit-second-home-claimed-expenses-say-neighbours.html#ixzz2CxMXcwy2
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Haystack - 22 Nov 2012 13:17 - 19119 of 81564

Would the taxpayer have made up any loss he made due to needing a second hone? If not then it all sounds reasonable.

mnamreh - 22 Nov 2012 13:27 - 19120 of 81564

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greekman - 22 Nov 2012 14:07 - 19121 of 81564

The problem is this.

New rules bought in after the expenses scandal no longer allow MPs to claim mortgage interest.
They have got round this by use of a legal (or at least a Government, looking after it's own rule) loop hole.

Quick example.

MP Smith owns a property in London which is next to an identical property owned by MP Brown.
Under current rules if both own the proerties, they can not cliam mortgage interest on expenses, if they live in their own property, they can not claim rent, as it is not allowed to pay yourself rent.
To get round this, both sell their properties to each other for the same price, so they make no gain or loss.
They can then rent from each other at the same price, claiming up to £1,400 pcm or £20,000 per year.
Of course these rents should be at the market price, but who is going to query a few thousand quid, and at London prices, its probably about right.
So if they rent to each other, they can both make £20,000 more than if they both live in their own owned property.
These are the same people that call companies 'morally currupt' when they use company tax loop holes.
And yes, if they need a second home and already own such, they would not get any expenses, apart from the usual household costs of energy bills and the like.
If they did not own such a property, they could then still rent, but there would be tighter control on this rent being treated as an expence if their landlords were not MP's .
It's the renting from each other, or the renting of a property that was originally owned, then sold to a company and rented back and the secracy of amount of rent paid that stinks.
And as Mnamreh states, any gain on a sale should be paid back, but without transparency, this is often not done, as several have admitted to not doing untill they are caught out.
As to any gain via the loop hole renting scheme, as its not elegal or against the rules, they do not have to pay it back, thats why they do it.
Anyone who can't see morally currupt similarities between these MP's and some companies, should look again!

2517GEORGE - 22 Nov 2012 15:40 - 19122 of 81564

Stan, thanks very much for your reply.
2517

TANKER - 22 Nov 2012 17:19 - 19123 of 81564

The Football Association clears Mark Clattenburg of using "inappropriate language" towards John Mikel Obi but charges the Chelsea player.

now lets see if the black football lawyers call for a 8 match ban .
or are they racist .or does it only work one way
and make the chelsea player pay him damages .

TANKER - 22 Nov 2012 17:35 - 19124 of 81564

if this had been a weaker person he could of taken is own life that is how bad this was .all players must think before they act.
so a ban and fine must be the call.

doodlebug - 22 Nov 2012 20:50 - 19125 of 81564

It only works one way Tanker, to answer your question. It's utterly appalling what Clattenburg has gone through in the last few weeks. A decent guy subjected to racist allegations, completely ill-founded. The black football lawyer involved in this case appeared on Sky news and was completely unapologetic.

Chris Carson - 22 Nov 2012 21:44 - 19126 of 81564

Referees decisions, irrespective whether correct or incorrect during a match should not be open to question by players imo. Never known a referee to change his mind no matter how many players protest, should make it a bookable offence or a straight red, that would soon put an end to this sort of nonsense. By the same token referees have to be accountable for those decisions, post match meetings would do the trick where the referees performance is judged. 4th official should be done away with they are just whipping boys a complete waste of time. Used to be judged insane if you were a player and asked to play in goal, current situation you must be insane to want to be a referee.

TANKER - 23 Nov 2012 08:34 - 19127 of 81564

doodle yes he was a piece of crap a very un honest person .
when are the FOOTBALL fans going to wake up to what is going on
the fans are treated like shit .

TANKER - 23 Nov 2012 08:35 - 19128 of 81564

wee will now see if the FA have any balls

skinny - 23 Nov 2012 08:42 - 19129 of 81564

Ah bless - Bullish bankers struggle to adjust to bonus cutbacks

TANKER - 23 Nov 2012 09:45 - 19130 of 81564

just watched sky news what a bloody disgrace CHELSEA FOOTBALL CLUB IS
THE CLUB IS A TOTAL DISGRACE .the fans should be proud of a disgusting club

greekman - 23 Nov 2012 12:52 - 19131 of 81564

Hi Skinny,

Lol, but it's not fair to make fun of them as things are becoming desperate, as I experienced only yesterday.
Yesterday, I was passing one of those soup kitchens that are springing up everywhere, when I heard someone shout, 'Whats a banker like you doing in here'.
At least I think thats what was shouted!

skinny - 23 Nov 2012 13:22 - 19132 of 81564

Greek :-)


Egypt protesters torch Muslim Brotherhood offices

Protesters in Egypt have set fire to Muslim Brotherhood offices in several cities, according to state TV.

They were demonstrating against President Mohammed Mursi's decision to grant himself sweeping new powers.

greekman - 23 Nov 2012 13:58 - 19133 of 81564

I am going to Egypt next Wed for a couple of weeks (staying away from Cairo).
What with the Coptic Cristians being attacked and now the Muslim Brotherhood, I will probably be safe wearing my Druid leather, cloth and sandals, although I think to cover all eventualities I will take a prayer mat, crucifix and kippar just in case.

Haystack - 23 Nov 2012 14:14 - 19134 of 81564

Sensibke comments on last night's Question Time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO-22uJG9xk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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