Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

However, if he does take into consideration the whole of society when introducing the necessary legislation to resolve the economic and social problems, I wish him well.

Goodness, Fred, with a comment like that you may aspire to be a gentleman yet. Pity so many other Labour supporters are such mealy-mouthed bad losers. (With the surprising, but pleasant, exception of Alistair Campbell.)

A Timetable For War
http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2010/05/05/a-timetable-for-war/

Stick to the recipes!

Stuffed Pastry Squares

Al-Motubug

6 cups flour
2 eggs beaten with 1/2 cup corn oil
2 bundles leeks (medium sized)
1 teaspoon ground black pepper
1 1/2 lbs ground beef
water
3 eggs (beaten)
salt
3 onions (finely chopped)

Sift flour, add the water and salt a little at a time, mixing dough until it becomes soft but pliable. Divide the dough into ten pieces, knead each piece well. Place on a tray sprinkled with a little water and let rise for at least one hour. Put ground beef in a saucepan with chopped onion, black pepper and salt. Stir over medium heat until cooked. Set aside until cool. Chop leeks and wash several times through a strainer; drain and put on a paper towel until excess water is absorbed. Add to ground beef.Take a piece of dough and cover in flour, roll out, place over back of hands and stretch until dough becomes quite thin. Place dough on worktop and trim uneven edges. Brush two tablespoons of egg and oil mixture over dough surface. Fold to form smaller squares. Place in frying pan or griddle over medium heat with one tablespoon of oil. Place pastry squares in pan and fry on both sides until golden brown. Repeat above method using five of the remaining pieces. With piece number six repeat as above to the folding stage. Place one fried pastry square in the center of the unfolded piece, cover generously with ground beef and three tablespoons of beaten egg. Fold into a square. Remember to sprinkle oil and egg mixture between layers. Fry in 3 tablespoons of oil over medium heat until both sides are golden brown. Repeat using remaining four pieces of dough. Serve hot. Serves 10-12.

"Fred1new - 11 May 2010 12:05 - 1908 of 1923
ITL

P1906

You wrote it.

Why was the "Mossad head of Station" expelled?

Was it in relationship to murder committed in another country and his "illegal or criminal actions" committed on behalf of an Israeli government.

In The Land of the B - 11 May 2010 12:10 - 1909 of 1923
Hey Nick,
How about all the "murders" and 'illegal or criminal actions' committed in another country on behalf of the US and UK governments of Taliban and AQ leaders by US and UK UAVs and special forces? "


I've not been here long, but does this fred individual normally ignore anything which doesn't fit in with his warped mind?
My question is a perfectly reasonable topic for discussion I'd have thought.
Or is he so anti-semitic that all he can do is spout hatred and propaganda?
A typical "don't let the facts get in the way of your opinion" type.

I've not been here long, but does this fred individual normally ignore anything which doesn't fit in with his warped mind?

You need to get over to the Pay Per View. He's got his own fan club over there.

:o)

hilary,
I don't think I'd accept any amount of money to read fred/nick's posts, much less pay per view to read them.
I mean, what use are they to man or beast?
They are worse than excrement, at least that can be recycled.
I assume he is a laughing stock on pay per view, but then I suspect he is here as well.
Thank you for the thought, though :)

ITL,

Are you married to one another?

I would think it would be a marriage of like minds and values.

Still thing are warming up at the negotiations on the Middle East.

Think Israel has be read the riot act again,

Ps

Amazing how Professor John J. Mearsheimer observations were and the conclusions are turning out to be.

Have a nice day.

Seems that some economist are suggesting if Osborne's budget comes a double dip recession is more than likely.

Congratulations.

Now now, fred/nazi nick, no point in being a drooling, but bitter and twisted fantasist. Mind you, it would fit in with the image of you.
Nothing personal.
Just an objective assessment.
Mmm... so how long have you believed that everyone, except your mate fahel, has been talking about you behind your back ?
Is it a life-long thing?
It is called paranoia.
But only if it isn't true...........so the nice gentlemen in white coats won't be coming for you.........at least not yet.

PS Does anyone know what our nick is talking about?
Does anyone care?
No, thought not.

Chicken Fatteh

Ingredients:

1 small chicken
1 onion
1 cup rice
1 pita bread
500 gms sour yogurt
3 garlic cloves
Spices and seasoning to taste
Preparation:

Clean and season the chicken to taste (salt, pepper, cardamom seeds, and nutmeg).
Peel the onion and place the whole onion with the chicken and a cup of water in a chicken oven bag.
Roast in the oven over medium heat. Leave to cook for one hour (or more according to the weight of the chicken.)
Cut the pita bread into small square pieces and fry them.
Cook the rice.
Place the bread in the bottom of the serving pan (which needs to be a semi-deep dish.)
After the chicken is cooked, pour the chicken stock onto the bread and mix with one crushed garlic clove and one spoon of cooked rice.
Place the remaining rice on top of the bread and chicken stock combination and make sure it's fully covered.
Mix the two remaining crushed garlic cloves into the yogurt and pour the combination over the rice and bread. Remove the bones from the chicken, and place the chicken pieces on top of the yogurt. Serve immediately.

Optional garnish: fried pine seeds and fresh parsley

ISRAEL"S LIST OF BROKEN WORLD RECORDS



From: Ken Freeland
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 17:03
Subject: [tnet] FW: Israel's List of Broken World Records
Israel, a country the size of New Jersey can only claim to the following
achievements:

. Israel was established upon the ruins of another nation that it destroyed; Palestine
. Israel holds the world record in the number of towns & villages it
ethnically cleansed.500+
. Israel holds the world record in the number of refugees it deported.4
million +
. Israel holds the world record in the number of homes it demolished.60 thousand +
. Israel is the country with the highest record of UN condemnation. 500+ times
. Israel is the country with the highest number of protective US Security council vetoes.100+ times
. Israel has killed more innocent civilians per capita than any other
country.50 thousand+
. Israel has imprisoned more civilians per capita than any other country.250 thousand+
. Israel has rendered more innocent civilians handicapped per capita than any other country.50 thousand+
. Israel has injured more innocent civilians per capita than any other
country.200 thousand+
. Israel has only two countries to defend its policies in the United
Nations. These countries are America & Micronesia. The population for
Micronesia as of June 2008 is only 108000
. Israel is the only country on Earth that denies the right of return of
refugees
. Israel is the only country on Earth that still occupies a whole other
country & parts of two other countries
. Israel is the only country on Earth that publicly steals the water of its
neighbours
. Israel is the only country on Earth that has legalized home demolishing as a method of collective punishment
. Israel is the only country on Earth that uproots trees as a method of
collective punishment
. Israel is the only country on Earth that deliberately targets civilian
infrastructure and justifies it
. Israel is the only country on Earth that legalized assassination
. Israel stands unique in using human shields in military operations
. Amongst all countries, Israel is the only one that has legalized torture
. Israel is the only country on Earth that builds illegal settlements in
occupied lands
. Israel is the only country on Earth that publicly jails activists without
trial
. According to the Guinness Book of World Records, Israel has created the highest number of checkpoints
. According to the Guinness Book of World Records, Israel holds the world record in the number of curfew its installed on the Palestinians
. Israel is the only country on Earth whose checkpoints deny women access to hospitals, they give birth alone and babies usually die
. Israel is exceptional in being the only country on Earth whose checkpoints denies patients access to hospitals, and they end up dying
. Israel is the only country on Earth whose checkpoints are where wedding parades come to an end
. Israel is the only country on Earth who checkpoints school children,
denies them access to school, and puts an end to their classes
. Israel is one of two countries that, against International Law, use
cluster bombs and depleted uranium bombs. America is the other.what a surprise huh?
. Israel holds the world record in the number of soldiers refusing to serve in the army
. Israel despite being a rich country, receives the highest financial aid,
more than the sum aid to all sub-Saharan Africa!
. Israel claims its enemies want to wipe it off the map, but it has indeed wiped a whole country called Palestine off the map!
. Israel is the county that has introduced nuclear weapons into the Middle
East. But the only country in the Middle East that refuses to sign the
nuclear non-proliferation treaty
. After East Germany, Israel is the only country that is building a
segregation wall
. Second to South Africa, Israel is the only country to establish an
apartheid regime
. Israeli engineers developed the worlds' first iron gates on roads
. Israeli engineers developed the worlds' first cities turned into jails
with gates and opening hours
. Israeli engineers developed the worlds' first apartheid walls
. Israeli engineers developed the worlds' first electrified segregation
fences
. Israeli engineers developed the worlds' first 'eyes specific' rubber
bullets
. Israeli engineers developed the worlds' first abortion efficient, infant
killing tear gas
. Israeli engineers developed the worlds' first humiliation guaranteed human cages
. Israel is the only country on Earth that has a political party that
publicly advocates ethnic cleansing of native citizens (Palestinians)
. Israel is the only country on Earth that still has racist laws that
discriminate against native citizens (Palestinians)
. Israel is the only country on Earth known to have a memorial dedicated to a terrorist where his followers gather and dance.

.Israel ranks amongst the top countries in lack of security

.Israel is the only country on Earth that imprisons kids for political
reasons
. Israel is the only country on Earth where you get a one month community service for intentionally, smashing the head of a child! How much more proof do people need to see that Israel is a terrorist nation?????! !!!!!!!!!
. Israel is the only country on Earth that does not hold its soldiers
accountable for shooting peace activists in cold blood
. No other country on Earth has towns and cities allocated exclusively for one ethnic group
. The only country on Earth, where people live in homes stolen from living refugees is, Israel
. The only place on Earth where people cultivate fields stolen from living refugees is, Israel
. Israel has the highest number of towns built upon ethnically cleansed
villages, whose former residents are living refugees


And still claiming, they the only
"Fair & Free Democracy" in the M.E.

Vegetarian Soups from the Middle East
By Habeeb Salloum
Wholesome, tasty, and simple to prepare, vegetarian soups have been on the everyday menu of the Middle Eastern peasant since the dawn of history. Through the centuries, at very little cost, the farmers and laborers of these lands have enjoyed healthy and nutritious broths, refined by their ancestors. Since the days of the Sumerians and the ancient Egyptians, generation after generation has been sustained by these peasant soups. The people, especially those of the countryside, have always been fond of their simple, delectable vegetarian broths. Hence, when Middle Easterners move to other parts of the world, they take with them these culinary delights.
My parents, having immigrated to western Canada from Syria in the early 1920s, were no exception. Having inherited the ingenuity of their ancestors who had farmed in the dry Biblical lands, they raised a healthy family through the Great Depression by the daily consumption of vegetarian edibles developed in their land of origin. When our neighbors found great difficulties in finding enough food to sustain them-selves, we thrived on our vegetarian stews and soups.

Hardy legumes such as broad beans, chickpeas, lentils, and a number of common vegetables which thrive in semi-arid lands kept us well-fed and healthy. Fresh from our hand-watered garden in summer and dried in winter, they were prepared with herbs and spices, becoming the sustenance of our lives. As the basis of various types of savory soups, they graced our table day after day. Even after over half a century, I can still visualize pots of these simmering vegetarian delights diffusing their enticing aromas.

Made from easily obtained vegetables and legumes, these soups are simple to prepare. They are succulent, inexpensive, filling, and do not require exotic ingredients, only herbs and spices to give them zest and tang. There is no need for meat to make a rich and full-bodied stock. Any available vegetable can be simmered with these seasonings to produce a delectable soup-base.

It is an irony that in the Middle Eastern homes of the affluent, vegetarian soups do not usually form part of the meal offered to guests. As long as they do not have visitors who could betray their eating habits, the well-to-do consume these soups privately with great gusto. On the other hand, to keep their status as part of the wealthy class, they disdain them in public, pretending to consider them as the food of the poor.

A good number of Middle Eastern soups are enriched by first sautng some of the vegetables with herbs, especially fresh coriander, thus making them, besides being wholesome, tasty. Many can be served with a salad and pita bread as a one-dish meal. These hot soups not only satisfy hunger and are healthy, but give warmth, pleasure, and excitement to the diner.

To the peasants of the Middle Eastern lands, they are a necessity of life. To vegetarians in other countries who have gourmet tastes, they are a very healthy and mouth-watering addition to their daily menu.


Recipes
PUREED LENTIL SOUP - SHAWRBAT `ADAS MAJROOSHA
(Serves from 8 to 10)
Try this hearty soup.

1 Tablespoon olive oil
2 large onions, chopped
1 small hot pepper, finely chopped
8 cups water
1 cup split lentils, rinsed
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon cumin
1 teaspoon ground coriander seeds
1/2 teaspoon pepper
Pinch of saffron
2 Tablespoons white rice, uncooked
1/4 cup lemon juice

Heat oil in a saucepan and sautonions and hot pepper over medium heat for 10 minutes. Add remaining ingredients, except lemon juice, and bring to boil. Cover and cook over medium heat for 25 minutes. Puree; then return to saucepan and reheat. Stir in lemon juice; then serve.

Total Calories Per Serving: 98
Fat: 2 grams

LENTIL AND TOMATO SOUP - SHAWRBAT `ADAS MAA BANADOURA
(Serves from 8 to 10)

Enjoy this delicious soup.

1 cup lentils, rinsed
7 cups water
1 Tablespoon olive oil
2 medium size onions, chopped
4 cloves garlic, crushed
2 cups stewed tomatoes
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon cumin
1 teaspoon ground coriander seeds
1/2 teaspoon pepper
1/8 teaspoon cayenne
1/4 cup white rice, uncooked
1/4 cup lemon juice

Place lentils and water in a saucepan and bring to boil. Cover and cook over medium heat for 25 minutes.

In the meantime, in a frying pan, heat oil and sautonions and garlic until they turn golden brown. Stir in remaining ingredients, except lemon juice, and sautfor another 5 minutes.

Stir the frying pan contents into the lentils and bring to boil. Cover and cook over low heat for 20 minutes or until rice and lentils are well-cooked. Stir in lemon juice and serve hot.

Total Calories Per Serving: 115
Fat: 2 grams

LENTIL AND VERMICELLI SOUP - SHAWRBAT `ADAS MAA SH`IREEYA
(Serves from 8 to 10)

The fresh coriander and cooked vermicelli add an interesting touch to this version of lentil soup.

1 cup lentils, rinsed
8 cups water
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon pepper
1 teaspoon ground cumin
1 Tablespoon olive oil
2 medium onions, chopped
4 cloves garlic, crushed
1 small hot pepper, finely chopped
1/2 cup finely chopped coriander leaves
1/3 cup vermicelli, broken into small pieces

Place lentils, water, salt, pepper, and cumin in a pot and bring to boil. Cover and cook over medium heat for 25 minutes.

In the meantime, heat oil in frying pan; then sautonions, garlic, and hot pepper over medium heat for about 10 minutes. Add coriander and stir-fry for 3 more minutes.

Add frying pan contents and vermicelli to lentils and bring to a boil. Cover and simmer over low heat for about 30 minutes or until vermicelli and lentils are well-cooked.

Total Calories Per Serving: 108
Fat: 2 grams

CHICKPEA SOUP - HASA AL-HUMMUS
(Serves from 6 to 8)

Here's a basic, yet delicious, chickpea-based soup.

1 cup chickpeas, soaked in water overnight, then drained
8 cups water
1 Tablespoon olive oil
2 medium size onions, chopped
8 cloves garlic, chopped into small pieces
1 small hot pepper, finely chopped
1/2 cup finely chopped coriander leaves
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon pepper
1 teaspoon ground mustard seeds
1/4 cup lemon juice

Place chickpeas and water in a saucepan and bring to boil. Cover and cook over medium heat for 1 hour.

In the meantime, heat oil in a frying pan; then stir-fry onions, garlic, and hot pepper until they begin to brown. Add frying pan contents with the remaining ingredients to the chickpeas. Cover and cook over medium heat for 1 hour or until chickpeas are well-cooked.

Total Calories Per Serving: 133
Fat: 4 grams

TOMATO AND CHICKPEA SOUP - HASA AL-TAMATAT MAA HUMMUS
(Serves from 8 to 10)

Enjoy another version of chickpea soup.

1 Tablespoon olive oil
2 medium onions, chopped
4 cloves garlic, crushed
4 Tablespoons finely chopped coriander leaves
2 cups cooked chickpeas
2 cups tomato juice
6 cups water
1/4 cup white rice, rinsed
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon pepper
1 teaspoon allspice
1/8 teaspoon cayenne

Heat oil in saucepan; then sautonions and garlic over medium heat for 10 minutes. Add remaining ingredients and bring to boil. Cover and cook over medium heat for 25 minutes or until rice is cooked.

Total Calories Per Serving: 109
Fat: 3 grams

BROAD BEAN SOUP - FOOL NABED
(Serves from 8 to 10)

Fresh broad beans are best for this recipe, but pre-cooked fava beans can also be used.

2 cups large broad beans, soaked for about 24 hours
8 cups water
1 Tablespoon olive oil
2 Tablespoons grated ginger
2 cloves garlic, crushed
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon pepper
1 teaspoon cumin
1/4 cup lemon juice
2 Tablespoons finely chopped parsley

Drain beans and remove skins. Place beans in saucepan with water and bring to boil. Cover and cook over medium heat for 1-1/2 hours or until well-cooked. Allow to cool. Puree in a blender; then return to saucepan and bring to boil, adding more water if necessary. Stir in remaining ingredients, except parsley, and bring to boil. Cook over medium heat for 5 minutes, stirring a few times. Place in bowls; then garnish with parsley before serving.

Note: Cooked fava beans - another name for broad beans - in cans can be substituted for the dry broad beans. The fava in cans are usually cooked with their skins, and hence the soup will be much darker in color. Substitute 4 cups of the canned fava for the 2 cups of the dried. Combine with remaining ingredients, except parsley, and pur; then bring to boil and cook for 5 minutes over medium heat.

Total Calories Per Serving: 108
Fat: 2 grams

BROAD BEAN AND VEGETABLE SOUP - SHAWRBAT FOOL
(Serves from 8 to 10)

Here's another broad bean soup.

2 cups large broad beans, soaked for about 24 hours
1 Tablespoon olive oil
2 medium onions, chopped
4 cloves garlic, crushed
1 hot pepper, finely chopped 2 medium tomatoes, chopped into small pieces
1 medium carrot, finely chopped
1 medium potato, diced into 1/2-inch cubes
1/2 cup finely chopped coriander leaves
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon pepper
1 teaspoon cumin
8 cups water

Drain beans, remove skins, and set beans aside.

Heat oil in a saucepan; then sautonions, garlic, and hot pepper for 10 minutes. Add remaining ingredients and bring to boil. Cover and cook over medium heat for 1 hour or until broad beans are well-cooked, stirring a few times and adding more water if necessary.

Note: 4 cups of pre-cooked fava beans can be substituted for the 2 cups of dry beans. If the cooked fava beans are used, cook the soup for only about 40 minutes.

Total Calories Per Serving: 144
Fat: 2 grams

VEGETABLE SOUP - HASA AL-KHADR
(Serves from 8 to 10)

A touch of ginger adds a lot to this soup.

2 Tablespoons olive oil
2 medium carrots, peeled and chopped into small pieces
1 large onion, chopped
2 cloves garlic, crushed
2 Tablespoons grated fresh ginger
2 medium potatoes, peeled and diced into 1/2-inch cubes
4 medium tomatoes, chopped
1 cup finely chopped coriander leaves
7 cups water
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon pepper
1 teaspoon cumin

Heat oil in a saucepan; then stir-fry carrots, onion, garlic, and ginger over medium heat for 8 minutes. Add potatoes, tomatoes, and coriander leaves and stir-fry for another 5 minutes. Add remaining ingredients a nd bring to boil. Cover and simmer over medium-low heat for 1 hour or until vegetables are well-done.

Total Calories Per Serving: 87
Fat: 4 grams

Haystack,
Excellent recipes.
Thank you very much.
FWIW, you are rising in my estimation daily.
I'm sure you are thrilled by that, :) , but someone who has got food so high in their priorities, just can't be all bad.
Unlike nazi nick and rabid fahel.

fahel,
Your post is giving nazi nick multiple orgasms.
Well done for bringing so much pleasure to one man.
Even in evil there can be a minor act of goodness - old Talmudic saying.

You lot need help.

Agreed. You can help by showing us your best recipes.

Hays.. fab recipes.... Have you got one for the soup that is eaten in the evenings of ramadan...thanks;-)
required field... perhaps you can help

Hay-love reading your recipes-more interesting than that racist made up drivel from that fantasist fahel.Never says a thing himself-just spends hour upon hour on google looking for racist madeup stories.


Thats why 86% of Arabs living in Israel prefer tio stay there than move to another country Muslim or not. And by the way fahel-Israel has not banned the burka as have Europoean countries. Why not have a rant about them???

I wonder what the underlying motivation is to divert attention from the original topic.

It can't be that some of the recent posters are too stupid to start their own threads.

It seems that there is a concerted attempt by a small active group to suppress information about Israeli actions for their own personal and perverse reasons, but I thought I would draw attention to Post 1993

I would suggest anybody who just glances at this thread could read the whole thread and make their judgement from the whole of its contents.

Howver, I would be careful about some of the recipes.

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ISRAEL"S LIST OF BROKEN WORLD RECORDS



From: Ken Freeland
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 17:03
Subject: [tnet] FW: Israel's List of Broken World Records
Israel, a country the size of New Jersey can only claim to the following
achievements:

. Israel was established upon the ruins of another nation that it destroyed; Palestine
. Israel holds the world record in the number of towns & villages it
ethnically cleansed.500+
. Israel holds the world record in the number of refugees it deported.4
million +
. Israel holds the world record in the number of homes it demolished.60 thousand +
. Israel is the country with the highest record of UN condemnation. 500+ times
. Israel is the country with the highest number of protective US Security council vetoes.100+ times
. Israel has killed more innocent civilians per capita than any other

Those who disagree with the contents of a thread could either point out the errors in the information, or just move on.

But the same group would shout for freedom of the press and media, but what they are meaning, is freedom of the press to print only what they think fit for others to see, or read.

A bit like the actions of the Nazis in Germany during the 30s and early 40s and the communists over far longer periods.

They eventually failed to have their way.

I suppose for some, it is "ignorance is bliss and it is folly to be wise".