for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

Not a member and never go on there, MP.
Too much bitchin for my tastes. ;-)
Alan

I can't cut'nPaste it - I have the poster on filter and my principles exceed my curiosity.

is this new news or just old stuff rehashed as i seem to remember ii posted similar stuff last year.

Aldwick can you repost it for what its worth ,thanks.

I have a feeling its old mischief making.
I think there must be a very big difference regarding the process or else SEO would never have got the patent on GS.

Likely to be mischief making. certainly not new. Ultrasonic welding is great and as the site says its primary use is on those dastardly clamshell packs that I cannot rip open, have to take a sharp knife to, etc, etc.., and I don't think it can do peelable.

It is no good on PET, but good on Polythene and polyprop. Not sure if it lends itself to the food industry as yet, plus will have to jump through the same hoops as SEO....

Alan,

Ultrasonics: High frequency sound waves {speed of sound through the medium}
Radio frequency: High frequency electromagnetic waves {speed of light}

Thanks garyble.
I knew my physics wasn't up to it!!
I'd got as far as working out that If I Gs'd a cat with Starpol 3000, I could see the cat, so Schrodinger was an arse.
Alan

Well that's my penny's worth.

I've edited it a little.

Got to pop off to meet some chaps to look over a project for which we sent a letter of intent last week. I've kept them waiting for 10 mins so far, but they have arrived an hour early!

Nothing to do with SEO, but funny coincidence. Letter of intent last week, and we're about to place the order today.

Garyble, sounds like they are eager. Profitez-en!

My god 3.9p!!! My deepest condolences, thank god I sold a year ago I never dreamt it was going to reside here a year later. Really feel for you guys and fingers crossed this recovers. You should have that drink in Donny all the same.

21 Aug'06 - 12:43 - 65082 of 65115


I tried telling them it was old technology yonks ago, but would they listen?

I worked in the electronics industry in RF applications for years, including modules for the stealth bomber, eurofighter, naval systems, missile systems, etc, etc, - although it's not food packaging, the underlying technology is the same - & RF is a total dog to work with, & the electronic components are very expensive.

Ultrasonics is easy by comparison & much cheaper on the component front

http://www.branson-plasticsjoin.com/applications_packaging.asp

Not convinced. Its all in the past tense.
Silicon chips were expensive a few years ago and now they almost give 'em away.
The xerographic process was a dog to work with, but is now very simple and easy to work on.
The same argument could have been put forward, circa 1950, for keeping with pen and paper rather than these new fangled calculating engine thingys.
times change.
The real question is; If the ultrasonic stuff is as good as GS, why have the likes of Asda / WM never shown any interest? Why is it not utilised to a greater degree?
Convincing on the face of it, but a little thought shows it to be the same old news trotted out.
I remain unmoved. Everyone else can make their own minds up.
Alan

Looking at the link, kindly posted, other questions spring to mind.
Why are most applications only rated as good not excellent? Why do they mention that the chart does not refer to the strength of the seal? Is it becasue in amny areas it is weak? Why do they offer other technologies for areas that ultrasound cannot package, is there a problem with it?
See. Its easy to put a negative slant on anything, even the companys own advertising material.
alan

I researched Branson some time ago and was not worried that it would affect SEO's business; for 'green' production SEO have the best all-encompassing machine. Some interesting questions on the FAQ section on Branson's site though:-

Q. Will my horn run on any machine?
Q. What kind of horn should be used for insertion?
Q. Why does my tool heat up?
Q. What types of coatings are available for horns?

kim

Edited name Branson not Benson!

aldwickk - 22 Aug 2006 11:54 - 19231 of 19233
http://www.branson-plasticsjoin.com/applications_packaging.asp

As you can see does'nt work with PET. Is only 'good' with half other stuff and involves purchase of new machinery that can only be specialised.
It's pants ..........aldwick....please tell me you own loads LOL.

Aye, aye.
Aldwickks fan club has turned up ;-)
alan

"me and my shadow".

Ald(getting on my)wickk

'Ultrasonics is easy by comparison & much cheaper on the component front '

Why have you only just told us that? You could have told us (and ASDA/WM/PERSECO) last year and saved us all a lot of time and money!

Re "Alan,

Ultrasonics: High frequency sound waves {speed of sound through the medium}
Radio frequency [Greenseal]: High frequency electromagnetic waves {speed of light} "


So Greenseal can be packaged faster ???? ;o)

And if it's packaged at a distance, do you see it packed before you hear it?