Why are we again at 10.5p bid?

It doesn't add up...

Good Results + Strong buying pre results + Christmas online buying soon = Price drop

Then again some companies that have debt for equity hanging in the balance, poor results and bankruptcy around the corner and they go up!

Why sell now at a loss?

Wont that be a kick in the teeth when we see 13.5p 14p again!

Best of luck all.

Will it ever stop falling :o[[.............D.

IC View this AM.
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I think there is still some way to go and the results for this quarter will be better than expected.



But I think Douggie should have more time off. 8+)

Id like to know how IC are calculating their 2005 profit forecast when all we know is they will be materially ahead of expectations, rtd havent quantified a sales/profit figure, what tax figure they are using, how much ammortisation etc etc. That also only takes into account a 1 yr view - i wonder what the 2006 PE is on their basis.

Happy to hold for the long term

Fraud hits half of attempts to purchase gift cards online, survey finds

Because they act as cash that can be easily re-sold or used to make purchases, online gift cards have become a favorite target of criminals, says Jeff Foster, executive vice president of Retail Decisions. Gift cards are like buying cash on the Internet, and fraudsters this holiday season really focused on them as opposed to trying to buy a Sony PlayStation, he says.

Foster notes that almost half of attempts to buy gift cards are fraudulent, as some criminals will make thousands of attempts per day using stolen credit card data. Foster bases those figures on the activity Retail Decisions monitors for its clientele of online retailers. The thing about gift cards is that fraudsters dont have to go through the trouble of selecting products they know they can re-sell, Foster says.

The good news, he adds, is that few attempts to steal gift cards succeed due to fraud-prevention techniques such as matching the geographic location of the IP address used in attempts to purchase gift cards with the home address of the credit card accounts authentic cardholder.

But though Retail Decisions notes that actual overall fraud accounts for only 2-5% of online payments, the rate of attempted fraud has been rising slightly faster than the corresponding rise in the number of online payment transactions. Retail Decisions tracked a 44% year-to-year increase in online sales for the period Nov. 15Dec. 16, but the number of attempted fraudulent payment transactions rose 46% for the same period, Foster says.

He adds that other items that tend to be popular targets of online payment fraud are MP3 digital music players, digital cameras and footwear, because they are all in high demand and easy to re-sell.

IC my arse...er,

or as Fundamentalist says "Id like to know how IC are calculating their 2005 profit forecast when all we know is they will be materially ahead of expectations, rtd havent quantified a sales/profit figure, what tax figure they are using, how much ammortisation etc etc. That also only takes into account a 1 yr view - i wonder what the 2006 PE is on their basis."

zcrooge

i think i prefer your more concise version :-)

IC journos don't have any time to research the smaller cap. co.'s properly, so this means that they regularly make classic blunders.

This is a prime example!

They have neglected to consider the markets that RTD are trading in, oil prices, exchange rates, and phenomenal growth of internet shopping in 2004.

More fool them - Now the "retired colonel" sellers are out, we're going to see plenty of upside next week when the bargain hunters descend....

Overgrowth, I hope you were standing to attention when you were addressing me.

:-))


Douggie is very quiet.

Reporting for duty Fred - how many 100K's of RTD would you like me to buy on Monday morn. ? ;-)

Douggie is suffering from the historically induced "should I sell before it tanks again?" syndrome.

I don't think he's realised yet that this is a "real" rise, not like last year's "Pump 'n' dump".

Maybe 40p before results will convince him lol!

I'm here folks.....holding watching and waiting.........and as promised keeping a low profile, don't want to spoil anything .... ;o\

I am trying not to wory about the CG tax :-/

Get as many of your non-AIM shares as you can into a self-select ISA in future Douggie - saves a fortune on CGT if they turn out to be winners!

Also if you are using SIPPS it may be useful to buy Aim and smaller cap shares in it. etc. (even buying and selling up to your Cap Gains before moving cash into Sipps and rebuying. I think eventually some of the restrictions on conversion to annuity will be futher modified. But there are always to be some penality due to the tax benefit when you first put the cash into the SIPP. Probably worth considering

Great buying op Monday morning if they don't hike it up first thing.

finding it hard to believe your assertion in 1936 og too late to sell allready out of CG range.. ;0\ down again :-/.!! :-[

sells/buys =100/1 !!!!!....my bums nipped so tight to this chair I can't get up..........!!!!!!!!!;-\

anyone for a top up?

Yes. I'll have a brandy neat.

Preferably a botte with a straw. I did have a stop loss which I lowered. Not so certain about it at the moment. (I know never change a stop loss.) Still think it will rebound. I think the next results are 2/3/2005, which seems a hell of a long way away.

Probably I will hold until then.

me to fred,then for a lot longer as the price heads up to 1.30 at that point I can buy a nice villa and retire (one has to have dreams)

Don't think GS would have bought without really knowing whats going on here. I added yesterday and will add more as funds become available.

Any dip should be looked at as a buying opportunity IMO

moneyman - I agree and it appears that lots of T-traders bought hefty chunks of RTD hoping to profit as it sailed towards 40p on take-over rumours.

Because Goldman Sachs look to have bought as much as they need for now, I believe we've seen the last wave of sellers move out.

There's still a good couple of months before the results are published, so there's plenty of time for the price to gradually rise up to results.

Technically investec says short term volatilty and medium to long term stable uptrend - which is exactly what we need from now on.

A steady increase up well past 30p in the next few weeks will do nicely - and there's no reason for us not to expect it.