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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

jimmy b - 04 Jan 2016 16:34 - 19302 of 21973

Long both DOW/FTSE may stay long overnight see how it goes .

Stan - 04 Jan 2016 16:44 - 19303 of 21973

Hols are for wimps -):

cynic - 04 Jan 2016 18:49 - 19304 of 21973

took 60 points on a DOW long ..... would have left it to run, but i could get the stop to edit from my phone - something odd there which i'll tackle tomorrow ..... rather annoying, but it was only a small position anyway, so no real blood though market continues to try to recover a bit

Claret Dragon - 04 Jan 2016 19:26 - 19305 of 21973

A worrying few days.

cynic - 04 Jan 2016 19:40 - 19306 of 21973

claret - i think we're in for a worrying year, never mind just a few days ..... i confess my inclination in the coming months is to be short of the indices, though of course all sorts of things can change that quite quickly


meanwhile, dow is now slipping back again so just maybe i'll go long if 17000 is hit once again

Claret Dragon - 04 Jan 2016 19:53 - 19307 of 21973

I am in the same camp as you cynic. Just read that a Fed official wants to raise rates four times this year!!! Time to do it was three years ago. Too late again. No doubt the taps will be turned fully back on if it all falls over.

cynic - 04 Jan 2016 20:20 - 19308 of 21973

more serious than that - don't forget interest rates only go up if an economy is over-heating in some way - there is the slowdown in china, which i am quite certain is far more serious than published .... you then have the little squabble between iran and saudi which could easily get out of hand .... finally, there is the eu referendum looming, and it's heading for a veyy close call

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interest rates to rise 4x in US in 2016?
load of rubbish imo, not least because it will send $ into the stratosphere and crucify US exports ..... i think it does nasty things for 3rd world countries too, especially their debt

jimmy b - 04 Jan 2016 20:47 - 19309 of 21973

Took a 120 points from FTSE long leaving DOW to run ..

cynic - 05 Jan 2016 08:12 - 19310 of 21973

well done jimmy
i got back into DOW when it dropped back to 17,010 and am still holding ....... 17275 will be a major hurdle to cross should we get that far (currently ~17,200)

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out at 17,169 but shall keep watching with a view to re-entry, level to be decided

jimmy b - 05 Jan 2016 08:44 - 19311 of 21973

Is the DOW going to spring a nasty surprise today ,was up a lot further overnight ..

currently 17146 .

cynic - 05 Jan 2016 08:47 - 19312 of 21973

hard to tell with both major indices

i think everyone is still pretty shell-shocked so there will be bear closing pulling against rally selling - or vice versa

FTSE at current level of ~6125 is worth watching for direction

jimmy b - 05 Jan 2016 09:09 - 19313 of 21973

Closed DOW now for 65 points . Going down at the moment . Have no clue today if it's going to rally or fall back.
Again may be worth buying FTSE/DOW on weakness .

cynic - 05 Jan 2016 09:11 - 19314 of 21973

ftse also looking unsettled

Stan - 05 Jan 2016 09:36 - 19315 of 21973

Yes well done James

Re market today, if in doubt stay out is my motto.

jimmy b - 05 Jan 2016 09:51 - 19316 of 21973

Yes true ,i sometimes try and trade for the sake of it .

Memo to myself ,, trade when you think you see a clear direction.

cynic - 05 Jan 2016 10:09 - 19317 of 21973

markets dropping again ...... cash DOW suddenly -80 and FTSE only +12

jimmy b - 05 Jan 2016 10:40 - 19318 of 21973

Went long DOW 17055.

cynic - 05 Jan 2016 12:40 - 19319 of 21973

2 lots of numbers from US today, neither of which are likely to affect sentiment greatly .....

U.S. auto sales for December will reveal what a bumper year it was for automakers at 2 pm ET.
The Institute of Supply Management is due to post its economic activity index for January at 10 am ET.

jimmy b - 05 Jan 2016 12:49 - 19320 of 21973

I'm staying long for now and will stop out if things look nasty below 17000 . I have enough points in the tank to accept a small loss if i'm wrong .

cynic - 05 Jan 2016 13:00 - 19321 of 21973

FTSE has moved ahead again - now +33 - so with luck DOW will tag along

actually, with DOW now at 17095, i may bank this morning's profit .... shall certainly now keep a watchful eye so to do

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banked 30 points which is better than a kick in the nuts
shall now wait to see if 17,100 is (re)pierced with any impetus
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