Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Dreams.

For me, you seem to be having wet ones and belong to the same group as Georgie Boy

As you are good as C+P trying reading this reasonable summary of your favourite:

"The smirking class … George Osborne leaves Downing Street before delivering the autumn statement. Photograph: Peter Macdiarmid/Getty Images


Gosh, George Osborne looks smug. As Labour's John Denham pointed out, the worse the news he brings us, the more pleased with himself he seems. He was smirking before, during and after his autumn statement. Hasn't he heard about the smirking ban? Why can't he just huddle in the cold outside with a tight little group of other smirkers?

And the news was bad. No chancellor in modern times has had to admit such a complete failure to get his numbers right. (Though some might have shown a little more humility. I name no names but Gordon Brown knows who he is.)



"Potemkin village" is political jargon for dressing something up to look much better than it is. On the wasteland of the British economy, Osborne has created the world's first Potemkin desert. A few green shoots of recovery are scattered forlornly across the wind-blasted sands.

Or to be more topical, his speech resembled the Cratchits' Christmas tree – dead, bare sticks with a few baubles hanging limply down.

He got off on to the wrong foot by declaring at the very beginning, "it's taking time, but the British economy is healing!""

fred have not worked for 10 years and have not had ONE PENNY FROM THE STATE
and have never claimed a penny in my life
and still pay over 33k a year in different taxes stamp last year 31k
the country is now full of lazy bastards would have the idea that the tax payers should keep them in luxurys the train is going to stop and the sooner the better give them charity vouchers for clothes and food .

fred as you have posted i have NO education .
so why are all these people who have been to uni school educated
on the benefits .
and a un educated person like myself are NOT claiming benefits
where have i gone wrong .
ha . I should never have gone to work 10 hours aday and should of stopped in bed making babys .

is that about right fred

so you know i am correct well done fred.
its not ease to own up to your failings

Tanker, we are in one of the longest and deepest recessions for generations , there are very few jobs about. Very different in your time, you could walk out of a job on Monday and start one by the end of the week.

Tinker,

With your suggested wealth, you are able to would be able to buy an awful lot of self- help books, which could be helpful to you.


Why don't you try doing so, or even get some home tutoring.

Either course, may be helpful to you and may remove the blinkers you seem to wearing.

Dreams,

Is there any resemblance

See the tories are ducking the Politics program to-day.

Interesting!!!!!

Hello, open your eyes Fred



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fred its the lazy bastards that have the blinkers people i no off never worked
in the betting shop ever day and then the pub and yes i no because i go in the books and the pubs . women on the bandits drinking smoking and the kids in the pram
the do gooders have done the damage people like you .
they are better off than most that work no council tax no rent no transport no getting up in the dark useing elec no going out in the rain and cold .
and when the sun shines they go out to the parks and pubs .
claiming around £150 aweek for rent £ 130 a month on council tax
no insurance on the house no maintenance .
then on top of that around £210 aweek benefits in cash then family allowance

then we look at the person working say on 20k

after tax and nics 16k a year
less rent 150 aweek leaves him with 8kless 1300 council tax 6700 left
then getting to work insurance maintence . say 1k ayear leaves 5700 leaves around
£100 aweek . if the working person is lucky

so who is better off even you can see this.

fred forgot free dentist treatment eye tests free leasure centres free swiming
free school dinners ,,

fred you need to wake up .
or can you tell me that they do not get these benefits .

Are you the Editor of the Daily Mail Tanks by any chance? -):

Oh, a tory has arrived. Late like Osborne should be.

12 months on dole then vouchers that is the way forward
and then cleaning up the country not sleeping .
singapore as the answers no work no money

fred i see you are good at posting but very poor on giving answers on facts .
does that about sum you up.
waiting for your answers

You will wait a long time

fred you have daughters on benefits .
now i understand your views you should keep them not the tax payers

Was he going to the guillotine?



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Dreams,

Listen to the excuses piling out of the mouths of your tory mates and have another dream.

Surely a party of PR men and tax dodgers could hire better mouth pieces than they seem to have done.



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can't be bothered to look back through the usual blather, but all you armchair critics have probably nothing constructive and workable to suggest anyway..... FT reckoned (i think) that though the statement wsa not magic, it left labour having to work hard to criticise with any credibility

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Walking tightrope on deficit
The best that can be said for the Autumn Statement is that the chancellor has stopped digging the hole he inherited, while offering more bitter medicine
http://link.ft.com/r/IOCBMM/DXK5HF/9ZXM54/C4G036/GYSCSQ/E4/h?a1=2012&a2=12&a3=6


Time to use room for manoeuvre
To claim that events beyond government control are to blame for economic outcomes is specious, writes Martin Wolf
http://link.ft.com/r/IOCBMM/DXK5HF/9ZXM54/C4G036/1OAFAA/E4/h?a1=2012&a2=12&a3=6


Chancellor makes best of bad job
Hardly a triumph this time and there may be worse to come but Labour has been left scratching its head, writes Janan Ganesh
http://link.ft.com/r/IOCBMM/DXK5HF/9ZXM54/C4G036/4VMPMK/E4/h?a1=2012&a2=12&a3=6


take your pick