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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

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for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


kimoldfield - 25 Aug 2006 20:42 - 19406 of 27111

I can just hear Stevie Wonder singing it now!

hewittalan6 - 25 Aug 2006 20:46 - 19407 of 27111

Take a look at the co-hosts with Wal Mart

oblomov - 25 Aug 2006 22:02 - 19408 of 27111


Alan,

'am I wrong or is that the first time SEO have publically stated that they are in talks with WM, about GS?'

What is 'the first time' you are referring to?

Neetybot - 25 Aug 2006 22:16 - 19409 of 27111

Am I going mad or did I just read
"Stanelco has also extended its exclusivity deal with Asda until the end of this year"
and yet the recent RNS states-
"The original terms of the agreement between ASDA and Stanelco, as announced on 24 March 2005, for Stanelcos GREENSEAL technology have been extended for another 12 months, other than the exclusivity arrangement with ASDA which has been waived".
Help!!!!

Oilywag - 26 Aug 2006 00:17 - 19410 of 27111

Good morning all

Just got in and found this from Paul Masterson. It seems geniune!!!!

""Hi All,

I found this using my 'special' search engines, note it is a news item dated today, need I say more

2006/08/25 UK retailer Asda will stock packages sealed with radio frequency (RF) on its shelves by 2007. The retailer is undertaking trials on salad packaged with UK-based packaging company Stanelco's GreenSeal RF technology - a more efficient and economical ...

I tried the link but it wasn't working

http://www.pira.co.uk/pira/piranet.asp

Ah, before I post, I managed to get on the PIRA website and do a search, here are the results, another news item appears as result nuumber 6, but dated 22/08/2006

http://www.piranet.com/pira/piranet.asp?page=/pira/searchresults.htm&Group=0&SubGroup=0

Asda to roll-out radio frequency sealed packaging
22/08/2006
UK retailer Asda will have large scale packages sealed with radio frequency (RF) on the shelves by 2007.
read more

It's a newsletter item, you have to pay up for the full story!""

If this is true, it is good news. And I wonder who the letters of intent are from in the US?

Too tired to think about it now. Needless to say that this will generate a ripple of interest on the boards over the weekend.

The oily one

kimoldfield - 26 Aug 2006 01:01 - 19411 of 27111

Neetybot, I think there may have been a misunderstanding, reports elsewhere agree with the RNS.

Oily, here is the full article:-

"Asda to roll-out radio frequency sealed packaging
25 Aug 2006

UK retailer Asda will stock packages sealed with radio frequency (RF) on its shelves by 2007.

The retailer is undertaking trials on salad packaged with UK-based packaging company Stanelcos GreenSeal RF technology - a more efficient and economical method of sealing, which leads to fewer leaks and requires less packaging material.

The trials are going well, says Mike Feast, Stanelcos technical director. They are to determine the shelf-life of salads contained within the RF sealed packaging, and we have shown that the shelf-life is as good, if not better, than packages which are heat-sealed.

GreenSeal allows the sealing of materials without the use of laminated polyethylene (PE) layers, as is the usual practice. The removal of PE laminations can result in a cost saving of up to 20%.

RF technology does not compromise the performance of materials like polylactic acid (PLA). Asda recently finished testing some packaging made with PLA from NatureWorks if RF is used to seal these packages, rather than PE, they will still be able to break down.

Stanelco has just extended its agreement with Asda for another year. The technology is no longer exclusive to the retailer, but Stanelco says Asda will still be the first to take it to market on a large scale.

All the other UK retailers are interested, but we will not offer them the technology until we have finished the trials with Asda, says Feast. We are hoping the suppliers to the supermarkets will help us take the technology forward.

After trials have finished with salad packaging, Stanelco will expand the packaging to other food types.

In the second quarter of 2005 Stanelco entered into an agreement to give Asda full rights to the GreenSeal technology. Stanelco says the market roll-out of the technology has experienced delays due to difficulties in gaining access to machines to test the technology in a factory environment."

Things are moving forward slowly but surely.
kim

TheFrenchConnection - 26 Aug 2006 01:08 - 19412 of 27111

Stockdog / mon petit toutou avec collier des NML diamants- ,,,,,,il dit en un sourraint ...Ca va ? ......l utterly refute your statement that i enjoy kicking people when they are down !!! lts absurd when everyone knows poking them in the eye with a shitty stick is far more my style. ....

tweenie - 26 Aug 2006 01:25 - 19413 of 27111

working through the night. alone. Again.....
Nice one oily.
At last good news.HOPEFULLY.
i've heard through grapevine of starpol being on shelves next month....at least this sounds concrete.
Lets see what sept brings.
10p by xmas LOL
(from little acorns)
maybe disneyland is back on the cards.

Tonyrelaxes - 26 Aug 2006 03:24 - 19414 of 27111

Thats 2 highly encouraging pieces of news tonight. Maybe it is them that is keeping me awake!

Butane's PackagingNews item adds about the Print Station - new to me.

PM1 and Kim's item is about Salads - not new to me.

Most sealed packaged salads are in printed bags - neatly bringing these two News items together.

Through research it seems the good weather earlier this summer considerably increased demand for salads which presumably prevented the immediate trialing of Greenseal. The producers, processors and packers of salad bags were having to work harder than expected to meet a higher demand.
Such would be ASDA's pressure on suppliers to supply to their sales led demands (to say nothing of tight margins) that this must have prevented sufficient downtime for machine convertion until a cooler spell.

Looks like the recent cooler showery weather has allowed this to commence now. Every cloud has a silver lining!

Tonyrelaxes - 26 Aug 2006 03:52 - 19415 of 27111

Further thought...

As the majority of prepared leaf salads are already sold in printed bags why the need to get a Print Station working alongside the GS sealing?

This suggests the material the print is going on is new. What new material? STARPOL?

Hmmmm....... Starpol and Greenseal together. Double whammy?

hewittalan6 - 26 Aug 2006 07:53 - 19416 of 27111

Hi Tony,
My Info is that Asda are more turned on by Starpol than Greenseal, though they love GS, so I think a double whammy is highly likely.
Alan

Oilywag - 26 Aug 2006 08:03 - 19417 of 27111

Alan

Are you playing cricket this weekend?

The oily one

hewittalan6 - 26 Aug 2006 08:16 - 19418 of 27111

I am Oily, but I have been promoted to the 1st XI, and My Asda contact is crap and in the 2nd XI.
I know what you are thinking (I think), so let me tell you all what I have been told.
As I said a couple of weeks ago, GS will be available in Asda stores from September, for a 3 month customer feedback study. Based on the results of that more orders will follow. My contact thinks that the feedback is a foregone conclusion, for many reasons, including the one that when people are told something is new and improved they automatically tick the "It's better " box on the form!! The other reason being that Asda do not put anything in store unless they are absolutely certain of its success.
The 2007 thing ties up uncannily with the September + 3 months and my friends certtainty that the trial is a rubber stamp.
One thing I have been a bit quieter about is the local produce pilots in the south. Apparantly these have been tried out with WM for some time, with the idea that Asda will follow. This is now happening. My friend tells me the GS trials are very much the opposite way around. That is why (perhaps unwisely) I was so happy to see SEO as co-hosts to WM in September, in the sustainable packaging forum.
May well be co-incidence, but its a big co-incidence if SEO partner WM at this conference just as the product goes live here, and WM want to follow suit. There is just a chance that WM see the conference as a great time to say to the crowd, "This is what we have exhaustively trialled in the UK, and we are about to get it here, and here are the guys to tell you all about it".
Remember all. IMHO, DYOR and WTFDIK.
Alan

oblomov - 26 Aug 2006 08:35 - 19419 of 27111

Alan,

'am I wrong or is that the first time SEO have publically stated that they are in talks with WM, about GS?'

What is 'the first time' you are referring to?

hewittalan6 - 26 Aug 2006 08:43 - 19420 of 27111

Oblo, see post 19396
Alan

oblomov - 26 Aug 2006 09:58 - 19421 of 27111


Thanks Alan.

Maybe I'm being a little pedantic, but it doesn't actually say they are in talks with WM over GS, although the article focuses on GM.

It says MW is in talks with WM, which we have known for some time, of course.

If MW was asked 'Are you in talks with WM', he would rightly say yes, but was he asked 'Are you in talks with WM over GS'?

We dont know.

andysmith - 26 Aug 2006 10:09 - 19422 of 27111

Tonyrelaxes,
Spot on with "Through research it seems the good weather earlier this summer considerably increased demand for salads which presumably prevented the immediate trialing of Greenseal. The producers, processors and packers of salad bags were having to work harder than expected to meet a higher demand. Such would be ASDA's pressure on suppliers to supply to their sales led demands (to say nothing of tight margins) that this must have prevented sufficient downtime for machine convertion until a cooler spell" and possibly again with "As the majority of prepared leaf salads are already sold in printed bags why the need to get a Print Station working alongside the GS sealing? This suggests the material the print is going on is new. What new material? STARPOL?" All packages are ink-jet printed with sell by, use by dates and maybe PLA needs different type of ink and ink-jets to give required quality as it is illegal to sell packs without this clearly identified.

To me this will be a good start for SEO to prove the technology can work commercially but will still not be the hundreds of machines immediately and the many other applications for Starpol such as trays and for wrap with the burger chain might prove to deliver the bigger profits more immediately.
This is why I say the "apparent" basket case close to going under and be tipped as a sell could be a good recovery play, as soon as the financing situation is out of the way then SEO has the chance to turn the corner again and will be worth a flutter.


hewittalan6 - 26 Aug 2006 10:13 - 19423 of 27111

Very true, Oblo. However the article is entirely GS and is from a packaging periodical, and is about the UK and US rollout of GS, so i feel fairly confident that GS is the subject of the talks.
Alan

Tonyrelaxes - 26 Aug 2006 10:21 - 19424 of 27111

Oblo.
The 24Feb06 RNS does link WM with GS.
"Both parties have identified specific areas where Stanelco can assist Wal-Mart
meet some of its sustainability objectives in the short, medium and long term
future. These include
- GreenSeal Radio Frequency Technologies and
- a significant number of opportunities were identified for its
Biodegradable packaging technologies.
Wal-Mart has requested that some lines be fast tracked and work on those
projects has already begun, specifically for Stanelco's recently US Food and
Drug Administration (FDA) approved Starpol 2000 biodegradable material. "

Alan.
Worrying thought. The season ends in a month or so.
Apart from an Xmas piss-up will there be the opportunity of progress updates?

Everyone.
If yesteredays news items do indeed include Starpol where is this to be manufactured?
I am not sure if JV MMFs are planned for the UK - but I do believe the announced (16Dec05 RNS) production and R&D facility in Tredegar has been shelved.

hewittalan6 - 26 Aug 2006 10:28 - 19425 of 27111

It gets worse, Tony.
He has confided in me that after this season he intends to request a transfer to a team in a different division, as he feels he is good enough for first team cricket.
:-(
So 16/09/2006 is the last opportunity I will have to speak to him on a casual basis, until the AGM in November, and that may well be the end of a beautiful freindship (from my point of view, anyway).
Alan
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