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Al anyone if your still here
Just back from Italy, cant be bothered again to read all the posts, fill in please. My prediction of 20p hasnt materialized.

Driver,
in summary...........................??????
If you remember me e-mailing you before you went on your hols, then all the speculation appears to be accurate. WM are hosting the sustainable packaging forum this year (again), but this time SEO are co-hosts. Thing is they are so skint, they are having a whip round for the air tickets and the CEO is booked in to a YMCA.
Starpol may or may not be a food source for rats but it is definitely no good if you keep your salad in your fish tank. 24 product lines at WM have trialled Natureworks PLA, and part of the delay was something to do with printing on Starpol (we think) .
Somebody somewhere has designed a print unit for GS.
Thats about it really, except we explored einsteinian physics as regards GS and found that if I type this quickly enough, you can read it before you go to Italy and watch massive amounts of lava disappearing back into vesuvius crater, where it will land safely on Frogpack.
I don't think I missed anything.
Oh yes. Concensus seems to be that SEO will have a better Christmas than Bernard Matthews.
Hope you enjoyed Italy,
Alan

Al
Cheers Al, I will be able to sleep now tonight, I think.

Oh Yeah.
Forgot to tell you, Driver.
Asda met with Natureworks in March this year to discuss where exactly they could use PLA.
sounds about right to me. Towards end of trials. Where can we use this stuff exactly. Lets ask the guys who make the PLA. We need lots. Sorry guv, can't have it till next corn harvest, when we can buy shitloads more to make PLA for Starpol for GS machines.
Okay, I made the last bit up. I admit it. but it looks promising.
Alan

"Even Asda has got in on the organic act. Its parent, Wal-Mart, recently announced plans to raise its own organic game in a move that has worried the US organic food movement. Andy Bond, Asda's chief executive, is going to announce a new series of sustainable initiatives tomorrow."

From todays Indy, would be nice if sustainable included green packaging, but i doubt it.

Nice find, barney.
Agree it would be fantastic. Lets see.
Alan

Nice find.
Unfortunately recently the Indy was totally wrong in what it had "heard" on another share I follow.

What I do not understand is why the US organic food movement is worrying over Wal-Mart raising it's own organic game.

I thought Wal-Marts involvement in anything is for the good, except possibly margins. A Movement should be forwarding the idea, not worrying about profits.

Wal-Marts involvement is what most here are looking forward to.

Tony

this again from the Indy

"Ronnie Cummins, of the Organic Consumers Association, a US lobby group, is among those who are concerned Wal-Mart will destroy the ethical ideals of the movement, which is more devoted to eco-friendly practices than the bottom lines of the world's biggest retailers."

Bloody liberals - they get the largest retailer in the world to adopt their muesli crunching guardian reading tosh and they still moan.

Over 2 months ago, my imaginary friend was telling me that biodegradability was only part of the story WM needed to launch something like this. This shows why. The bloody treehuggers will leap on anything in their pursuit of us all wandering to the woods to collect wild berries, rather than nipping to the shops in our cars.
WM, and Asda, need to be certain about sources, transport, energy requirements, ethical employment and much else before they can trumpet it. To do other wise could leave them with egg on their faces.
He highlighted GM and transportation. Can you imagine WM launching this in a blaze of publicity only for Mr Cummins to point out that more oil than ever before was actually being used because of the transportation and energy costs!!!!
Its starting to fit.
Alan

IF.... everything comes to fruition, Given that biotec will probably increase production of s/pol 2k/3k/4k?etc
Am I right in thinking all this will be reliant on natureworks producing enough PLA and selling to seo?

Starpol 2000 {Bioplast 2189} uses 60% PLA
Satrpol 2055 uses 30% PLA
Starpol 2063 uses 20% PLA

Naturework's annual production of PLA is @140,000 tonnes. Therefore could be a significant percentage of NW's current capacity if one of the posible deals comes off.

Any idea what Starpol 3000 uses as a % PLA?
I don't think Starpol 2000 cuts the mustard for fresh food packaging, as it is not available in clear form.
Alan

Alan,

Can't find any direct info on Starpol 3000 composition as yet, but would hazard a guess that it would have a similar PLA content to Starpol 2000, but simply made from PLA 3001D or PLA 3051D rather than PLA 2002D, hence the imaginitve name.

Thanks, garyble.
I didn't even realise there were so many PLA variants!! You are right, though. 2 MMU's would take about 15% of Natureworks annual production, so if things go to plan, NW better have the capacity.
Alan

LONDON (AFX) - Andy Bond will today present himself as the green ambassador of the British supermarket industry when he announces plans to host a sustainability conference later in the year, the Financial Times reported.

In a thinly veiled attack on arch-rival Tesco PLC, which has been running a high-profile green campaign over the past few months, the chief executive of Asda -- owned by US giant Wal-Mart Stores Inc -- told the newspaper that he was concerned that sustainability had become a 'flag-waving exercise' rather than a genuine attempt to help customers and the environment.

Bond said he was planning to write to all grocery chief executives to invite them to the Asda Sustainability conference to share expertise on packaging and renewable energy.

'It will be a better conference if Tesco comes along and acts in a pro-active manner,' he said.

'We don't want to quash competition but I do think that the current issues go beyond just competitive advantage. This is a moral issue and I think we should do more than just what is best for the Asda shopper,' he added.

Tesco and Wal-Mart-owned Asda have had a number of small spats about green issues, with Asda angered recently when Tesco made a big play about moving goods off the roads and on to rail.

Opinions on this one please.
Does it mean that Asda are looking to pick the brains of other supermarkets? Or could it be that Starpol / GS needs other supermarkets to follow suit to increase volume and thereby reduce costs. Could it be that Asda cannot maximise its use of GS /Starpol unless production lines that are shared by many supermarkets use it? Or is it simply that Asda want to play a game of oneupmanship, and announce to the world how hard they are working and how little other supermarkets are doing?
Answers on a five pound note to my usual address.
Alan

I think it's Asda playing a game of oneupmanship.
What we want is a nice little Eco green type supermarket war.
What better to get things moving Seo's way. Such a war will put immense pressure on all, to get new environmentally friendly products on the shelves.
I don't think any of the supermarkets care about such environmental issues, but if it means profits increase they will worship the issues like it's a new religion (the green god).

Posted on AD..FN,

It should be remembered that many of the staff have been paid off; where is the severance money coming from for the top execs?

Bit rich, Asda saying that they want the environmental issue to transcend competitive one up manship; their stipulation on a one year exclusivity deal has been one of the main contributing factors in the slow take up of Greenseal and therefore the reason that SEO is now so strapped for cash. I believe they should be prepared to bankroll SEO until some orders are received. How likely is that???!!!

SEO apparently recently shed 10 employees, of which only one was from the board {Terry Robins}, who is now involved as a consultant. Two other "interim" execs have been taken on to push forward with commercialisation.

I doubt the severance package for the non-execs would amount to a great deal.