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Coffee Heaven - A heavenly share for penny punters ? (COH)     

overgrowth - 06 Oct 2003 22:47

underground01_2.jpgA busy day in the Warsaw Underground ! Not just another coffee shop chain - this one is a brand leader and is only trading in Eastern/Central Europe (i.e. the countries recently admitted to the EU destined for substantial business growth). The company is creating new outlets at a fair old pace and take a look at their website - these are quality stores in high-profile locations like major airports, railway stations etc. Website: http://www.coffeeheaven.eu.com

APRIL 2006 TRADING UPDATE!!! Total Gross Revenues for 12 months to 31st March up 66% to £6.3M (2005: £3.8M) Lots more info. on new markets and stores click here to read the full details. Stores: 43 (up from 32) stores currently trading (Poland: 30 (up from 23), Czech Republic: 6 (Up from 2), Latvia: 7 with a further 5 units under construction including Bulgaria and sites secured in Romania (subject contract). Bulgaria & Romania are seeking to join the EU from January 2007. Sites located in key high street, shopping malls or Airport locations. Company growth target: increase number of units by at least 20 units to some 63 units by 31 March 2007. Aim being to achieve this level of growth within present Cash resources.Cash balances at 31 March 2006 were approximately £2.9M (2005: £0.7M). Debt was nil (2005: £ 2.5M): Nil Debt! Positive EBITDA: For the year ending 31 March 2006, Group EBITDA expected to be firmly positive after charging UK and new market development costs but before exceptional costs relating to the cancellation of bonds (previous Debt). Forecasts: Based on present trading conditions and current exchange rates we anticipate indicative sales of £9.3M for the year to 31 March 2007. This includes indicative sales of £0.4M from Bulgaria, which will be reported but not consolidated. From Richard Worthington (Chairman and Chief Executive): ‘The new financial year has started well. There is no doubt that the significant economic improvement in our markets is feeding through to consumer confidence and spending. The strength of the coffeeheaven brand ensures we are ideally positioned to benefit from our customers' increasing prosperity.’

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David10B - 26 Jul 2007 14:20 - 1950 of 2037

WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH THE WEAK AND FEEBLE GET GOING--STAND YOUR CORNER MAN.

You wont get a more genuine poster than me. I have stuck to my views through thick and thin and have been proven spot on.

You have continually called this share "wrongly" up, now you have proven to be what you are like, the bully you have proven yourself to be----you now cry shy and run away.

TYPICAL

AdieH - 26 Jul 2007 14:24 - 1951 of 2037

As I said we shall talk face to face at the AGM I find it easier to talk in person... my friend, yes ptholden it was out of order but I only said what many were thinking...

Bye Bye everyone, life is way too short to bother with this cra. day in day out(even shorter for David since he closer to the grave than many of us he has admitted he has retired - I mean - lol)...

cynic - 26 Jul 2007 14:39 - 1952 of 2037

on a more sensible note (Adie and 10B; not sure who is the more tiresome), it looks to me that PT's downside target of 34 will be hit in the near future ....... if you are an afficionado of this stock or sector then you may consider that a good level to buy

beemer2 - 26 Jul 2007 14:43 - 1953 of 2037

Ian

David10B has been banned from every BB on the net...why can't you be man enough to do the same and ban him from moneyam, it's an absolute disgrace the way this prat is allowed to post in the way that he does.

paulj - 26 Jul 2007 16:14 - 1954 of 2037

Sorry to see Adie go. With all the other fed-up folk who've also signed off, it looks like that's another thread down the plughole. Well done Ian and David 10B! You should both be very proud of yourselves.

David10B - 26 Jul 2007 16:41 - 1955 of 2037

Firstly lets get this right I have never been banned from many BB, if you think I have then post it. NOW

nEXT THE ONLY PEOPLE TO BE OFFEEND BY MY POSTS ARE HOLDERS WITH A VESTING INTEREST IN PROTECTING THEIR INVESTMENTS---NO MORE NO LESS.

YOU WANT THIS BB to go back to what it was before I brought a well needed balance here--then have it. MoneyAM will be all the poorer.

PAULJ clarify your post how can you say this thread has gone down the plughold when you have the most accurate stock forecasters around here for free---thats me mate, bang on the button 100% of the time.

THE PROBLEM WITH MOST POSTERS AND READERS IS THAT THE SAY AND READ ONLY WHAT THEY WANT TO--FEW ARE HONEST, FEW A DECENT, ADIEH gets al violent and most resort to name calling, yet when I have a bad 'un like LNX at the moment and pssobly CFE I laugh about them as I play a big boys game and my portfolio is well balanced.

So children you cant ramp all the time--but I suppose you can take your ball home and leave the others to kick the dust.

David10B - 26 Jul 2007 17:04 - 1956 of 2037


COME NOW ADIEH SEEING AS YOU DO NOT RAMP AS YOU SAY, PLEASE TELL US ALL HERE HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY 40P.

I SAW THAT WHEN EVENTUALLY YOU DO GET NEWS COH WILL HIT THE DECK.

beemer2 - 26 Jul 2007 19:52 - 1957 of 2037

COME ON IAN AND REMOVE THIS INDIVIDUAL.

IanT(MoneyAM) - 27 Jul 2007 07:02 - 1958 of 2037

David,

I have removed your copy of another posters posting from another board at their request.

Ian

IanT(MoneyAM) - 27 Jul 2007 07:04 - 1959 of 2037

Please note if I see even a hint of what I determine to be personal posting on this thread from this point forward I will remove that posters access without prior warning for a -period of 24 hours. If once said poster returns gets personal again - I will remove access completely.

This is my final word on this, I am watching, and will not hesitate to act should I deem it necessary.

Ian

trigger45 - 27 Jul 2007 08:34 - 1960 of 2037

I think everything has been said regarding COH at this stage, so it would be really nice to let this drop down the BB until more news is released.

I congratulate David for calling the share price right up until now, but the only thing I would ask is, if anyone posts anything positive about this share, don't assume they are all rampers with an agenda.

Just discuss without assuming everyone is a ramper.



cynic - 27 Jul 2007 08:39 - 1961 of 2037

well posted trigger ...... i think PT's chart indicated support at 34, so perhaps a buy at that point for the brave

David10B - 27 Jul 2007 22:36 - 1962 of 2037

Ian why did you do that, the post by AdieH on iii was clearly not copyrighted and in the public domain.

The point of all this is to curb the rampers and their wild and unsubstantiated claims.

These people cry to you purely as thier investments are being exposed and weak and therfore the SP is affected, they care nothing for those unfortunate to have followed this thread before I came here.

If you are, as you claim, truly interested in the content of this BB I suggest that you go back and read the COH thread before I came here.


Both AdieH and Beemer have made outlandish and unsubstantiated SP prices for COH and have ignored my frequent requests to add some weaight to thier claims.

Beemer2 50p, Adieh back to 40p on good news etc.

How can these people be allowed to make these claims? Is not MoneyAM regulated by the FSA?

As for hints of personal postings, thats a laugh, as threatening to rip a persons head off is illegal imtimidation, however you still allow ADIEH to run crying to you every time I post a truth about COH---why?

Are not these BBs about open and honest debate to enlighten and help others learn---or do you own COH as well?

I see its down again today, just as I called it and despite there being substantially more buys than sells.

Perhaps Mr Market has finally cut away all the brokers hype and realised that COH is still a heavily ladened company that has still to make a profit and is currently floating on air, no air has substance its flaoting on hot hype only.......and still no long over due RNS.

If we have another negative feature from the likes of the AIM and OFEX bulletin I fear COH may well fall below 10p as its NAV is still only around 6p.

Unless of course others here want to prove me wrong, which they have not managed to do to date........plenty of insults and crying to teacher to get me banned, but no solid figures.

Let me make it clear----These thingies can say what they like about any of my holdings, I simply do not care as I bought them and I hold them with confidence and good reason, but then I play a big boys game,

alanatml2 - 29 Jul 2007 01:15 - 1963 of 2037

'its down again today, just as I called it and despite there being substantially more buys than sells.' That's been the case for many shares recently.

Why should that be happening? Markets are supposed to follow the supply / demand rules? As far as I can read COH is cash rich for development? Are the markets just crooked to the core?

David10B - 29 Jul 2007 09:17 - 1964 of 2037

Yes of course they are, as I keep on saying its a its boys game.

But your assumption on COH being cash rich is, well in part, wrong!

As is your contention that Mr Market follows rules, well yes he does in fact, but he makes them up as he goes long---which is why few have managed to crack his secret code to fabulous wealth and riches that are on the table every day.

You see Mr Market likes its listed companies' cash to be money earnt, not milked from its shareholders.

Good profits, being as they are, as sign of a healthy business going forward.

COH, has differnt talents as it has taken its cash pile off its shareholders and just sat on it!

COH has never made a profit in its seven years of trading---Sadly for shareholders, with the increased competition entering the COH market place almost monthy, its too late for the huge potential profits COH shareholders had longed for, and hense the SP will slip further back.

The lack of news flow from COH is not helpful.

David10B - 29 Jul 2007 13:17 - 1965 of 2037

Again taken from III where there was no copyright notice, and the post was clearly in the public doman.

However I still offer a full acknowledgement to III.

This posters has always been one of the more sensible there-- viz.

Share valuation The Financier

We have discussed the 'true' value of this share before and I'm sure that we all realise that it is almost impossible to value with any degree of accuracy. If good established retailers are valued at, say 20 p/e then we could say that a prospective p/e of 30 might apply to COH, given it's superior growh prospects. If this were true for a price of 35p then a full year's earnings would have to be of the order of 1.75p p.s. With c68m shares in issue, that would require a post tax profit of 1.2m within 12-18 months. Can anybody see this happening?
On this basis, I don't think that I can argue against a fair price of low thirties or even high twenties. I would appreciate other's comments please.
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Also, and IAN please kindly note that Adieh has been refered to there as paranoid and pathetic------------obviously I concur..

Clearly now it must be strikingly obvious that if I have not come here this thread would be a rampers' paradise---and all to the discredit of MoneyAm.

I have at least brought a just balance to this thread.

proteus - 29 Jul 2007 15:31 - 1966 of 2037

Isn't calling AdieH paranoid and pathetic personal,can we have the ban ?

David10B - 29 Jul 2007 16:48 - 1967 of 2037

I was wondering where you were, he with the manufactured profit rigging maths.

Get real proteus and stop polluting this BB with nonsense, you have ramped this dog share for long enough by over stating the true sitaution of the finances.

I played you along long enough to show what you truly are---- just another ramper with no consideration for others except your own investments

In relation to AdieH its obvious to those with sense that I was simply pointing out what was said on another forum in the public domain of which I was more than happy to concur with. Or are you implying that everyone is wrong except him, or perhas you need to explain to Adie Hurford that his tactics went out with the Krays.

Its Adieh who has shown himself to be what he is---and no one else,. he is lucky that I never passed his threaten posting over to the police in Bristol together with his email address.....but then I am a big boy and quite capable of fly swatting on my own/

beemer2 - 29 Jul 2007 17:18 - 1968 of 2037

IAN WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO BAN THIS MUPPET HE IS STILL POSTING THE SAME ABUSE AND RUBBISH

David10B - 29 Jul 2007 17:27 - 1969 of 2037

LOLOLOLOLOL BEEMER2 RAMPS COH TO DEATH AND THEN COMPLAINS---WHAT WAS IT HE SAID/////// 50P NEXT WEEK i THINK AND THAT WAS ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

I am the only one posting sense on COH

Beemer2 I asked you ages ago why you wanted me banned you did not reply, dont you have a solid reasons other than the fact that the truth I post hurts your holdings in a dog company?

You post above that I am posting rubbish and abuse---please illuminate what rubbish and what abuse/ Come on be a good little boy and let us have your answers.
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