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website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

MP,
Could still be GS and Starpol. These can both be described as GM free. It is the crops they come from that are GM, the product is GM free. Further SEO have had discussions in the past with Sainsburys and if memory serves me correctly, M&S have been mentioned before as well, though I cannot recall in what context.
Alan

Alan ,starpol is derived from GM crops and I believe this is unacceptable to Sainsburys.Apparantly it is possible to produce starpol from non GM crops but this is more expensive.There was a discussion on this board a few weeks ago after I had spoken to Sainsburys so I wont bang on about it any more.But yes hopefully it is Starpol but it would be good to have it mentioned by name.Just imagine"Sainsburys and Marks and Spencer are at present conducting trials with a wrap tradenamed Starpol .This is a fully biodegrable boiplastic derived from corn and has been developed by Stanelco plc a leader in this field.Should these supermarkets adopt this"green" product it will most likely become industry standard"oh well no harm in dreaming!!PS I have just seen from Pauls site that Stuart Lendrum from Sainsburys is speaking at the 1st European bioplastics conference in November. It is a small world isnt it.

You a script writer, Pad?
Should be!!
LOL

Might make more money at it!Read my PS just posted.

MP,
I refer you to your own post, 19496, where Sainsburys and Waitrose said it made sense for all supermarkets to work together on sustainability and welcomed the invitation from Andy Bond of Asda to the conference on exactly that issue.
Odd then, that the FT should then come out with their bit, now.
Further (and I make no apology for this), an unconfirmed source, who I neither know well or have any reason to either believe or doubt, tells me that a trip to their local Asda saw "new" bags for the fresh fruit and Veg areas, for the customer to fill. other than the fact that the bags were of a new style and type, they could tell me no more, and I have been unable to confirm this independantly, so take your pick over whether it is real and related or not.
Alan

Alan the source for my post 19496 was also the FT.Whats odd?Todays feature is virtually a full page and well worth the read it also starts off with Mr Bond and the conference.

Odd was the wrong word. Co-incidental would have been a better choice.
I was referring to the fact that Asda are going with SEO. Sainsburys choose to accept Andy Bonds invitation to join them in a multilateral approach (possibly) to sustainability and then Sainsburys are happy to talk to the press about their green initiatives.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Asda agree to drop exclusivity to allow a quicker and easier rollout, and shortly after, Sainsburys tell us they are testing a new wrap for their organic produce, at about the same time as SEO tell us they are in testing for a couple of months with their packaging (which many of us took to mean with someone other than Asda).
Tantalising threads that one could pull together however one chooses. They could be totally unconnected or they could be an intriguing picture emerging from the fog.
Your own choice.
Alan

Lets hope thay are connected,I'm off to Sainsburys to look at the organic apples,quite sad really!

For all the news flow , the bottom line is theres still no deals done.
Or have i missed something.
Would love to buy more shares but won't risk anymore cash until some cash generation is announced by SEO.
The onus is on them to deliver- and bloody soon.

You are both right.
Tweenie, I aint putting any more in till I see something concrete cos it could all still blow up (and I aint got the balls or funds of Tony).
MP. yes you are very sad. ;-)
Alan

GM & PTH,

Yep you're absolutely righth, I got confused {no vino involved} thinking that there'd be a benifit if taxable, but there is no tax to pay in certain requirements are met.

Thax Alan.The bag of organic apples has"compostable 7P0024 "printed all over it and also"this packaging is made from Mater-Bi R ,a non GM renewable sources and should breakdown..."Please somebody tell me this has something to do with Stanelco.PS..It hasn't its an Italian product and GM FREE.WAKE UP STANELCO

I can feel another e-mail to Stanelco stirring in my loins.

This really is very important to the future of Starpol because more and more supermarkets are going to respond to their customers' demands for non GM bio-degradable products.

The swing to non GM has been really strong and surely the company must have anticipated it. If not they have been asleep.

As I quoted from Confucius before, "creature with head in sand gets arse kicked!" Has anyone ever met a rich ostrich???? Mmmm ... yea, me neither!

The oily one

Cant understand investors piling into these no hope stocks when you can buy good snall companies around with better prospects and making lots of money now.

An example is EKT market cap only 13.5 million and has been making millions the last few years so much so the nett asset value has increased 7 fold. Its got net cash no intangibles and pays a dividend as well. Red Hot Penny shares has a price target of 25p as against 17.5p to buy. Check out the EKT thread.

"market cap only 13.5 million"... "making millions the last few years"

If it has been making millions, got net cash, no intangibles and pays a dividend and I assume, has wonderful prospects, why is the market cap only 13.5m?

The oily one

Hi all

MadPad. It sounds like you are talking about a specific product's own packaging - not the bags at the checkout or for the Pick/weigh your Own fresh Fruits and Veg.

OK, the bag or the bag materials are made in Italy (going there next w/e). Was it used for other products? Where were the apples produced & packaged? What sort of bag was it - cling wrap? or loose fill? or tray and cover?

I will reserve my initial thoughts until I hear. I hope you don't get indigestion from the apples!

Google has a number of pages on " Mater-Bi R ". Not ploughed through to see if it is from a subsidiary of Bio-tec!!

Oily.
Not so sure I like hearing about the stirring in your loins.

Tony ,loose fill organic Braeburn apples grown in New Zealand,packed in Italian GM free bioplastic.I said a few weeks ago that Sainsburys were totally commited to GM FREE even in their packaging ,HERE'S THE PROOF.Before any muppet asks the apples were great,now I wonder are they tax deductable being part of my research.

Master-Bi R is made by Novamont, who have been in the bioplastics field for years. I'm not sure that it can be thermoformed or extrusion blown like Starpol.

It's PLA by a different name. I can only guess that to satisfy sainbury's GREEN (LOL) concerns, the source material is GM free. They've got a variety of bags and other productsd similar to SEO (worrying) .
http://www.biorefineryworkshop.com/presentations/Bastioli.pdf#search=%22Mater-Bi%20R%20bioplastic%22.
LIKE I SAID, HAPPY TO HOLD. SEO NEED TO DELIVER.

Stanelco know Sainsburys have a GM free policy so why arn't they selling a GM free product to Sainsburys ,how come they have been pipped at post by an Italian co,who now have a foot in the door to sell other GM free bioplastics no doubt.Iwill endeavour to find out the answer.