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Coffee Heaven - A heavenly share for penny punters ? (COH)     

overgrowth - 06 Oct 2003 22:47

underground01_2.jpgA busy day in the Warsaw Underground ! Not just another coffee shop chain - this one is a brand leader and is only trading in Eastern/Central Europe (i.e. the countries recently admitted to the EU destined for substantial business growth). The company is creating new outlets at a fair old pace and take a look at their website - these are quality stores in high-profile locations like major airports, railway stations etc. Website: http://www.coffeeheaven.eu.com

APRIL 2006 TRADING UPDATE!!! Total Gross Revenues for 12 months to 31st March up 66% to £6.3M (2005: £3.8M) Lots more info. on new markets and stores click here to read the full details. Stores: 43 (up from 32) stores currently trading (Poland: 30 (up from 23), Czech Republic: 6 (Up from 2), Latvia: 7 with a further 5 units under construction including Bulgaria and sites secured in Romania (subject contract). Bulgaria & Romania are seeking to join the EU from January 2007. Sites located in key high street, shopping malls or Airport locations. Company growth target: increase number of units by at least 20 units to some 63 units by 31 March 2007. Aim being to achieve this level of growth within present Cash resources.Cash balances at 31 March 2006 were approximately £2.9M (2005: £0.7M). Debt was nil (2005: £ 2.5M): Nil Debt! Positive EBITDA: For the year ending 31 March 2006, Group EBITDA expected to be firmly positive after charging UK and new market development costs but before exceptional costs relating to the cancellation of bonds (previous Debt). Forecasts: Based on present trading conditions and current exchange rates we anticipate indicative sales of £9.3M for the year to 31 March 2007. This includes indicative sales of £0.4M from Bulgaria, which will be reported but not consolidated. From Richard Worthington (Chairman and Chief Executive): ‘The new financial year has started well. There is no doubt that the significant economic improvement in our markets is feeding through to consumer confidence and spending. The strength of the coffeeheaven brand ensures we are ideally positioned to benefit from our customers' increasing prosperity.’

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David10B - 27 Jul 2007 22:36 - 1962 of 2037

Ian why did you do that, the post by AdieH on iii was clearly not copyrighted and in the public domain.

The point of all this is to curb the rampers and their wild and unsubstantiated claims.

These people cry to you purely as thier investments are being exposed and weak and therfore the SP is affected, they care nothing for those unfortunate to have followed this thread before I came here.

If you are, as you claim, truly interested in the content of this BB I suggest that you go back and read the COH thread before I came here.


Both AdieH and Beemer have made outlandish and unsubstantiated SP prices for COH and have ignored my frequent requests to add some weaight to thier claims.

Beemer2 50p, Adieh back to 40p on good news etc.

How can these people be allowed to make these claims? Is not MoneyAM regulated by the FSA?

As for hints of personal postings, thats a laugh, as threatening to rip a persons head off is illegal imtimidation, however you still allow ADIEH to run crying to you every time I post a truth about COH---why?

Are not these BBs about open and honest debate to enlighten and help others learn---or do you own COH as well?

I see its down again today, just as I called it and despite there being substantially more buys than sells.

Perhaps Mr Market has finally cut away all the brokers hype and realised that COH is still a heavily ladened company that has still to make a profit and is currently floating on air, no air has substance its flaoting on hot hype only.......and still no long over due RNS.

If we have another negative feature from the likes of the AIM and OFEX bulletin I fear COH may well fall below 10p as its NAV is still only around 6p.

Unless of course others here want to prove me wrong, which they have not managed to do to date........plenty of insults and crying to teacher to get me banned, but no solid figures.

Let me make it clear----These thingies can say what they like about any of my holdings, I simply do not care as I bought them and I hold them with confidence and good reason, but then I play a big boys game,

alanatml2 - 29 Jul 2007 01:15 - 1963 of 2037

'its down again today, just as I called it and despite there being substantially more buys than sells.' That's been the case for many shares recently.

Why should that be happening? Markets are supposed to follow the supply / demand rules? As far as I can read COH is cash rich for development? Are the markets just crooked to the core?

David10B - 29 Jul 2007 09:17 - 1964 of 2037

Yes of course they are, as I keep on saying its a its boys game.

But your assumption on COH being cash rich is, well in part, wrong!

As is your contention that Mr Market follows rules, well yes he does in fact, but he makes them up as he goes long---which is why few have managed to crack his secret code to fabulous wealth and riches that are on the table every day.

You see Mr Market likes its listed companies' cash to be money earnt, not milked from its shareholders.

Good profits, being as they are, as sign of a healthy business going forward.

COH, has differnt talents as it has taken its cash pile off its shareholders and just sat on it!

COH has never made a profit in its seven years of trading---Sadly for shareholders, with the increased competition entering the COH market place almost monthy, its too late for the huge potential profits COH shareholders had longed for, and hense the SP will slip further back.

The lack of news flow from COH is not helpful.

David10B - 29 Jul 2007 13:17 - 1965 of 2037

Again taken from III where there was no copyright notice, and the post was clearly in the public doman.

However I still offer a full acknowledgement to III.

This posters has always been one of the more sensible there-- viz.

Share valuation The Financier

We have discussed the 'true' value of this share before and I'm sure that we all realise that it is almost impossible to value with any degree of accuracy. If good established retailers are valued at, say 20 p/e then we could say that a prospective p/e of 30 might apply to COH, given it's superior growh prospects. If this were true for a price of 35p then a full year's earnings would have to be of the order of 1.75p p.s. With c68m shares in issue, that would require a post tax profit of 1.2m within 12-18 months. Can anybody see this happening?
On this basis, I don't think that I can argue against a fair price of low thirties or even high twenties. I would appreciate other's comments please.
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Also, and IAN please kindly note that Adieh has been refered to there as paranoid and pathetic------------obviously I concur..

Clearly now it must be strikingly obvious that if I have not come here this thread would be a rampers' paradise---and all to the discredit of MoneyAm.

I have at least brought a just balance to this thread.

proteus - 29 Jul 2007 15:31 - 1966 of 2037

Isn't calling AdieH paranoid and pathetic personal,can we have the ban ?

David10B - 29 Jul 2007 16:48 - 1967 of 2037

I was wondering where you were, he with the manufactured profit rigging maths.

Get real proteus and stop polluting this BB with nonsense, you have ramped this dog share for long enough by over stating the true sitaution of the finances.

I played you along long enough to show what you truly are---- just another ramper with no consideration for others except your own investments

In relation to AdieH its obvious to those with sense that I was simply pointing out what was said on another forum in the public domain of which I was more than happy to concur with. Or are you implying that everyone is wrong except him, or perhas you need to explain to Adie Hurford that his tactics went out with the Krays.

Its Adieh who has shown himself to be what he is---and no one else,. he is lucky that I never passed his threaten posting over to the police in Bristol together with his email address.....but then I am a big boy and quite capable of fly swatting on my own/

beemer2 - 29 Jul 2007 17:18 - 1968 of 2037

IAN WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO BAN THIS MUPPET HE IS STILL POSTING THE SAME ABUSE AND RUBBISH

David10B - 29 Jul 2007 17:27 - 1969 of 2037

LOLOLOLOLOL BEEMER2 RAMPS COH TO DEATH AND THEN COMPLAINS---WHAT WAS IT HE SAID/////// 50P NEXT WEEK i THINK AND THAT WAS ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

I am the only one posting sense on COH

Beemer2 I asked you ages ago why you wanted me banned you did not reply, dont you have a solid reasons other than the fact that the truth I post hurts your holdings in a dog company?

You post above that I am posting rubbish and abuse---please illuminate what rubbish and what abuse/ Come on be a good little boy and let us have your answers.

beemer2 - 29 Jul 2007 17:32 - 1970 of 2037

COME ON IAN AND DO EVERYBODY A FAVOUR AND BAN THE PRAT SO THIS BB CAN GET BACK TO NORMAL

cynic - 29 Jul 2007 17:39 - 1971 of 2037

beemer ... no need to squelch; just ignore as i do ..... there are couple of similar idiots on VIY thread

proteus - 29 Jul 2007 18:07 - 1972 of 2037

Well well 10 B showing your true colours now aren't you.

David10B - 29 Jul 2007 21:12 - 1973 of 2037

Come on beemer2 give your true reasons whjy you want me banned, if you indeed know what truth means.

Show me one false word or statement made against anyone. You just want to rope the suckers into COH---no more no less.

Proteus, you bet and more to come if need be.

Ever heard up stirring up a hornets nest.

siralex - 29 Jul 2007 21:52 - 1974 of 2037

Vicky Pollard eat yer heart out - Yeah but no but yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

beemer2 - 29 Jul 2007 21:57 - 1975 of 2037

I AM NOT THE ONLY POSTER WHO BELIEVES YOU SHOULD BE BANNED IT IS TIME YOU STOPPED BEING ALLOWED TO MESS UP THREADS WITH YOUR ILLITERATE AND MORONIC POSTS

sniffer - 30 Jul 2007 00:08 - 1976 of 2037

I am really surprised that moneyam have allowed a renowned loony to continue posting.(David10B) He has been banned from other BBs many many times and his main issue with COH seems to be that he sold out way too soon. Sad sad individual.

sniff

IanT(MoneyAM) - 30 Jul 2007 07:17 - 1977 of 2037

david,

I have allowed you to post negative comment, just as I have allowed others to post positive commnent - I have repeatedly had to intervene on this thread on both sides. You are no longer posting negative comment on this stock, you are simply posting about fellow posters. This is not acceptable. This is your last warning, and I will remove your access should you continue along this line.

Ian

beemer2 - 30 Jul 2007 09:49 - 1978 of 2037

Ian

Thanks for your intervention and hopefully a step in the right direction

David10B - 30 Jul 2007 09:53 - 1979 of 2037

Fine IAN then what about the sniffer post above?

The name calling and personal abuse did not start with me read back and see for yourself.

I am a decent civilised person but there are limits_____-

This BB under your moderation seems to approve the implications that one have to be a loony to call shares in the right direction.

I now formally object to the continued statement that I have been banned from other BB, as I have not, if you allow such crap to appear here then I demand of you that you post proof.

Similarly with posters such as beemer2 and Adieh who like the big bully boy babies they are run to you every 5 minutes wanting to get me banned---I want to know why they want me banned---yet they dont give you any justifiable reason save that I have called their share right bang on all the time.

If you want a pretty usless rampers' BB without constructive comments, that I know for a fact have saved investors money by not buying COH( I have emails and Emails from three people who bought COH at 49p at what AHIEH had to say about Will Currie buying etc)---then I suggest that you do in fact ban me!

For looking back over this thread its all pure unsubstantiate hype

EG-------AdieH - 31 Aug 2006 08:48 - 450 of 1977
Exceptional results and up 5% already today, were heading for 30p barrier now... this is a little beauty... 2-3 years we could be at 1.50...


NOW WHAT DID ADIEH BASE THAT ON????

YOU ARE THE MODERATOR--PLEASE ASK HIM, AS THE WAY THINGS ARE FOR COH RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THE NEW COMPETITION AND LACK OF PRIME SITES, COH WILL BE LUCKY TO BE AROUND IN 3 YEARS TIME

David10B - 30 Jul 2007 09:57 - 1980 of 2037

AND FOR THE RECORD I HAVE NEVER OWNED COH SHARES AS AN INDIVIDUAL.

I CAME HERE LOOK FOR INFO AS NO DOUBT MANY OTHERS DO.

WHAT I FOUND HERE WAS A CLEAR ATTEMPT TO STIFFLE FREEDON OF EXPRESSION BY THE VESTED INTERESTS---AND THAT SMACKS OF PRE WAR GERMANY.

NOW IF I WAS WRONG IN MY ASSESSMENT OF COH WHICH TOOK MANY HOURS OF RESEARCH AND NOT JUST EMPTY GOBBING I WOULD BE THE FIRST TO GO----WITH TAIL BETWEEN MY LEGS.--------BUT I AM NOT SWRONG, I AM RIGHT!

beemer2 - 30 Jul 2007 10:09 - 1981 of 2037

Ian

He is once again posting about fellow posters after you advised him not to
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