Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

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Hays,

What is the current party spiel on his comments?

Stan and i%%!!!,

Hope all arrived home sober and not the worst for wear.

Must meet up again earlier in the new year, preferably in a quieter pub with free beer!

8-)

One with home made pies might bring back memories.

"Hope all arrived home sober and not the worst for wear." Well I arrived home but not sure about the sober bit -):

VG to meet up again and enjoyed it. Yes the new year meet sounds good.

If I could just add my tuppenceworth about this poor nurse and her family. Depression is an illness and quite often people don't realise they are suffering from depression until something triggers a reaction and causes someone to snap, quite often with disastrous consequenses. Depressives very often bottle things up and can't talk to their loved ones about how they feel. Her colleagues probably had no idea about how badly she felt about what had happened. If anything good can come out of this it will be a better awareness in our society about how vulnerable some people can be.

Whole heartedly agree with you doodlebug as I tried, not as well as you to explain in an earlier post today. We are all vunerable to a degree.

Although depression is talked about more openly, there are still many situations where to admit you have depression and need help can have adverse consequences in your job.
In my old job, way before counseling' whenever we dealt with a harrowing incident, we usually all got together with a few drinks and talked things through.
Nine times out of Ten this was all that was needed.
Since the rise of 'The Councelor' and compensation culture almost everything out of the ordinary requires councelor time.
Problem is that if you need counseling or admit depression' it can often go against you re promotion or even staying in certain 'units'.
We have reached the ridiculous situation where we now have Firemen who because of stress, can't attend fires, Ambulance personnel that cant attend accidents and even Traffic Police who can't attend serous accidents, but are still retained in the same roles.
Whilst I sympathies greatly with anyone who suffers from PTSD or any form of depression surely common sense should mean that they either have a break from the job or situations that caused the PTSD or that they can no longer do that job.
As to the specific case of the stress caused to the Nurse, it reminds me of the Ross and Brand phone call to Andrew Sachs.
There are many people out there who feel that anything goes for a laugh, without considering the circumstances.
Most of these idiots don't have half a brain cell between them and will never learn!

I wonder who or where the blame would switch too, if the two DJ's were found hanging as a result of this...

I hope I'm not wrong, but I don't think that is going to happen simply because they have been openly talking about their pain, grief and remorse. It's when people bottle things up and can't articulate about how they feel that they then resort to desperate measures.

G.

The few pints and a chat, often did not resolve the problems and led to a culture of high intake levels of alcoholism within the Polices force over various periods.

Sometimes a "chat" with the "boys", or "mother or father" figures may help to put things in proportion, or evaluating the "trauma" and resolving possible "feelings" of failure, or realising that many more would temporally fail in similar situations.

Similar is done by a long walk on a beach etc..

But not always.

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Doctors, the general public, health professions and psychotherapist often misdiagnose or confuse the emotional state of their clients etc..

The aetiology of the symptoms being presented, or not presented, by the "distressed" individual.

There is a tremendous difference by those suffering from biochemical depression and being unhappy, dissatisfied by their lot ect.. The help or treatment should be modified to attempt to treat of modify the effects of the aetiology.

There is also a tremendous variation in the states group as "suffering from anxiety".

Previously the medically over treatment this group by medication was eventually to the their detriment.

Many times. if instead of suppressing the symptoms with alcohol or tranquillisers the question "what are you anxious about" was asked, maybe coping mechanisms, or models of coping would have be more useful.

Again, this is simplistic and easier to say but more difficult to do.

But the application of "home spun psychology" has its own problems. Win some, lose many.

Their open remorse is because of the suicide, not because they feel guilty of the calls made.
Its a bit like the 'sorry it was an error of judgement' we get from the fiddling MPs when they are caught out, when what they really mean is 'they are sorry they were caught'.

just back from visiting some young girl who as got cancer
she wants to live and some one takes there life
i no who i feel sorry for and it is not a sucide person

if she was a proper nurse and mother she would not of done it
she should of gone down to the local hospice and no what suffering is

I better not comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some of your comments really? I have a plank of wood in the garage with more brains

dream i bet you have never visited your local hospice you should and take some money if you can they need it

Oh dear me what next??? Feel like you dc. Wish the subject would get changed as the whole affair is depressing enough in itself.

Tanker, ''if she was a proper nurse'' its the way you you put sentences together.
I think you are far from understanding a person who is mentally ill?

Oh! hells bells it gets worse.

Agree 3m, lets leave it there. I think he should visit a hospital that looks after the mentally ill and get a understanding of these people.