From 3i's by Ken Thompson.


Having listened to people I respect, read the notes and pondered, my own opinion(formed by discussion with others) of the situation is :

1. The recent GEM drawdwon was to provide the operating funding for the Tadpole to continue to function. As much was said in statements from the company recently.

2. This will continue, in my opinion, until revenues from Cartesia, particularly OS, kick in the second half of the year. The need for GEM should than be much reduced and possibly ended.

3. I do not think that we are currently seeing a new GEM drawdown at all. Instead we are seeing GEM selling the shares from the previous drawdown. I guess they felt that weak markets couldn't take 10.5 million shares in one go. So they sold what they could and are now placing the rest in blocks of 250k.
By my reckoning they must be getting very close to the end of the 10.5 million now and thus GEM will cease for a while or even permanently with luck. For this day I am invested and looking forward to.

4. Undoubtedly GEM is a drag on the share price..............who would buy shares in numbers at the moment knowing there was a possiblity of forward momentum in the share price being reversed by the next GEM drawdown. However I firmly believe that Cartesia and ETI are in a very strong position to outperform the figures laid out in the recent brokers note. This opinion was reinforced by the recent Centia news and the success of Apps with Autodesk.

I think this should significantly reduce the companies reliance on GEM funding. I would also hope that Bernard Hulme would make the end of our need for GEM loudly and publicly known so the cloud can be lifted. But who am I to tell him how to run a potentially massive business. He has more experience than me of running software firms( Santa Cruz was billion dollar company).

The forecast in my opinion...........cloudy at the moment but there are distinct signs that the sun is about to break through.

Stick with it Albie, being sceptical of false dawns with tad is good. I would like to see solid progress, the end of GEM and the prospect of a massive payday from MS, HP et Al gives me something to dream about but I won't hold my breath about waiting.

Ken Thompson

Very good post moneylender, although I think ains probably led you to the site.
It must be a privilege working under him so much.

Tadpole-Cartesia Business Partners

Goodness me moneylender that is an impressive list, we are so lucky to be involved with such an impressive company really aren`t we?
Ains, well done for showing moneylender how to do that show, you are the best, your "right hand " must be very tired now , a well deserved rest for the weekend will be cool.

Endeavors Technology Magi Partners

and more moneylender?.
I wish I was clever enough to be able to do pretty pictures like that, but sadly ains is not a real intimate of mine, unlike yourself.
You must be very proud to have been chosen as his pupil.
Keep up the good work, a few more of these and TAD will jump like a frog next week, mark my words.
Thanks for all your support for our dear ains this week, such a brick.

Tadpole IR Contact - Hugh Paterson, Tel +44 (0)207 987 4888, Email
hughp@patcom-media.com

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Tadpole's Web Software Subsidiary Becomes First Company to Offer Enterprises
Seamless And Secure Interoperability Between Public Instant Messaging
Products

New Endeavors' software makes IM communications between AOL, AIM and MSN
Messenger users now a reality; unique IM solution preserves the user
experience with no change to the IM client; Magi Secure XIM gives
enterprises cross-platform control of user messages and file transfers

###

Cambridge (UK), March 25, 2003 - Tadpole Technology plc (LSE - TAD) today
announces that its Endeavors Technology subsidiary has released software to
enable full native interoperability of popular instant messaging (IM)
products. For the first time, users can communicate securely between
different public IM products, and enterprises can monitor employee instant
messaging and chat sessions, and control the flow of corporate intelligence.

Called Magi Secure XIM, Endeavors Technology's new software product has been
built to leave the IM platform untouched and preserve the user experience
and 'buddy' lists. Singularly, it provides corporations with strong
cross-platform security controls over instant messaging and chat rooms, thus
supporting the extended adoption of IM in businesses and applications. The
software is deployable instantly across an enterprise and requires no
modifications to existing network architectures. This also gives the
enterprise control of their own directories and helps them manage their own
employees as well as communications with partners, suppliers and customers.
This way, the enterprise can centrally control security policies while user
adoption is enhanced with the use of public IM.

"Magi Secure XIM brings to an end an era of closed proprietary IM platforms
and uncontrolled instant messaging in the enterprise," said Kapi Attawar, VP
marketing of Endeavors Technology. "Deployed across and beyond an
enterprise, the software supports the extended use of popular IM platforms
in business, and singularly allows corporations to manage IM communications
in a similar way to e-mail."

With Magi Secure XIM, an AOL AIM user can open an IM channel with a MSN
Messenger user and vice versa directly from their existing IM client. Magi
Secure XIM is a plug-in product and is transparent to the user. It supports
the features and functionality of commercial IM products so there's no
training, infrastructure change or switching costs involved in getting IM
fully and finally back under corporate IT control. Magi Secure XIM also
improves large file getting and sending, and incorporates smart local-loop
routing so that communications travel point-to-point internally which
prevents sensitive company information leaving the enterprise firewall..

A principal feature of Magi Secure XIM is its unique ability to look up
corporate identities from popular IM buddy names and underwrite them with
strong Public Key Infrastructure based authentications to avoid identity
spoofing, and allow financial grade non-repudiation, tracking, and auditing.

Endeavors Technology previously announced the release of Magi Secure IM for
AOL Instant Messenger (AIM), Microsoft's MSN Messenger and Yahoo! Messenger
as single products to route instant messages through a fully compliant and
auditable cross-enterprise communications proxy. Endeavors, however,
continued its quest to create interoperability between these products in
order to ease corporate concerns of eventual lock-in or over-exposure to a
single vendor's product.

Enterprises have long called for secure interoperability of popular IM
products, with financial services and healthcare organizations leading the
call. These heavily regulated industries are under pressure by government
agencies to manage instant messages and chat sessions as they would phone
and e-mail communications. With more than 60 million enterprise workers
already using one IM product or another, analyst group IDC has predicted
enterprise deployment of IM is expected to leap to over 255 million users by
2005.

Recently, the Financial Instant Messaging Association (FIMA) requested IM
vendors to agree on standards as soon as possible. FIMA is currently
comprised of seven large Wall Street firms including Credit Suisse First
Boston, Deutsche Bank, J.P. Morgan Chase, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch,
Morgan Stanley and UBS Warburg. Endeavors is a founding technology vendor
member of the association.

A demonstration of interoperability can be found at http://www.endeavors.com

About Endeavors Technology, Inc.
Endeavors Technology, Inc. is a wholly owned subsidiary of mobile computing
and network infrastructure vendor Tadpole Technology plc (LSE-TAD,
www.tadpole.com), which has offices in Irvine (California), and Cambridge,
Edinburgh, and Bristol (UK). Endeavors' Magi technology transforms today's
Web into a highly secure inter- and intra-enterprise collaboration network
for the delivery and interaction of files, Windows applications and instant
messaging. For further information on Endeavors' Web software, call
949-833-2800, email to info@endeavors.com, or visit the company's website
www.endeavors.com.

ends

Copyright 2002 Endeavors Technology, Inc. Magi, Magi Secure IM and Magi
Enterprise are registered trademarks of Endeavors Technology. All other
company names, products and services mentioned in this document are
trademarks of their respective owners.

hugh paterson
patcom media relations
tel - +44 207 987 4888
email - hughp@patcom-media.com
web - http://www.patcom-media.com

Moneylender, our ains has just done that cut&paste , and another bloke on another bb too, try to stay focussed , ains can`t keep you all under control by himself you know, try to keep the vibrancy going with some new stuff.You know ` news possibly tomorrow, ` the AGM will reveal all`,`mm`s short of stock`, if you have forgotten ask ains for a copy of the group strategy.


Dave

Tadpole Technology waved goodbye to its chief executive yesterday and today launched some new software for the financial industry; the hint is that it is lining up a deal to better exploit its leading edge software.


Bernard Hulme left the company with immediate effect and non-exec chairman David Lee has become executive chairman.

Today, Tadpole (TAD) announced the launch of Magi Secure XIM, software that will allow financial institutions and others that rely on instant messaging, to be able to communicate securely with users of different instant messaging (IM) systems. To date, users of AOL AIM have been unable to communicate with users of Microsoft's MSN Messenger for example.

Tadpole says that its new product provides a bolt-on that enables different systems to communicate. It also provides an audit trail, so that company's can keep track of what's being said over IM.

The Magi software comes from Tadpole's Endeavors business in the US. Endeavors is the supposed jewel in the crown, with its suite of software for peer-to-peer collaboration known as Magi.

The software, which among other things enables direct, secure communication between one mobile device and another, allowing users to share files and work on them together, has been well received by major companies such as Intel, but has yet really to be sold into any major customers.

Hulme was responsible for taking Tadpole from being a small hardware supplier to a company with this leading edge software, but he has also presided over the fall in share price from 70.5p in May 2000 to less than 5.25p today.

Tadpole has yet to really exploit the Endeavors technology, and in the meantime, the hardware business it was relying on for its bread and butter was badly hit by the downturn in capital expenditure for IT in the past couple of years. This led the company to sell its US-based server business in December.

Today's product announcement coincides with the start of a two-day conference by Sunguard, the systems integrator that specialises in financial software, at which the Magi software will be demonstrated.

Recently, the Financial Instant Messaging Association (FIMA) requested IM vendors to agree on standards as soon as possible. FIMA currently comprises seven large Wall Street firms including Credit Suisse First Boston, Deutsche Bank, J P Morgan Chase, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley and UBS Warburg. Endeavors is a founding technology vendor member of the association.

It is believed that Tadpole needs some independent third party verification that the software works, and this may come from Sunguard this week.

Citywire Verdict:

There are constantly rumours flying around about Tadpole, which have continued to fuel interest among small investors, but few of which ever amount to anything.

The current ones include the idea that Tadpole is about to collaborate with a major player to get some of the Endeavors technology into the market, and that once the interoperability of the product has been proven, there may be a deal on the cards in the US with Microsoft.

It is not clear if it will bring in a new chief executive, but a more high profile software salesman type might be in order now.

It would be high time for some really substantial news from Tadpole, but be very wary, this company has done nothing but disappoint for the last two years.

2003 Citywire
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Oh , sorry I thought this was a thread for discussing shares , not " how to cut and paste repetitively, until boredom sets in,
wrong thread

Dave

its not for discussing " shares " . its for discussing tad. the cut and pastes are fine because they are about the main topic. a lot of us rely on the stalwarts who bore you , for our information.

ok rodders?

Gravy ........shouldn't you be signing off with " OES " ?? ........ROTFLMAO

You ARE the clown of the BB's and the MASTER of multiple aliases :o))

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Next week will be interesting, just watch and see.

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Nice one Gc lol

By Jim Hu
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
March 25, 2003, 2:15 PM PT





Special report
Message in a bottleneck
Instant messaging, corporate software
rub shoulders in the workplace.




Start-up Endeavors Technology said it has found a way to bridge the chasm separating popular instant messaging by America Online and Microsoft.
The upstart on Tuesday unveiled software that it claims will allow AOL Instant Messenger users to communicate with MSN Messenger users. Although the two Internet giants have waged battles when one attempted to interoperate with the other, Endeavors Technology believes its workaround will let AOL and MSN users communicate without violating their proprietary networks.

The software, called Magi Secure XIM, works alongside the AOL and MSN tools and creates a communication bridge between the two services. But instead of letting an AOL user directly exchange messages with an MSN user, the software creates a peer-to-peer connection with another person who has downloaded the IM clients and Magi.



Magi, similar to popular IM management software Trillian, does not create a direct connection between AOL and MSN servers. Rather, the software allows a person to integrate both so-called buddy lists onto one interface and send messages to anyone regardless of the system used.

"You can go from desktop to desktop, and you don't have to go through an AOL server," said Kapi Attawar, vice president of marketing at Endeavors Technology.

This may be an important distinction. AOL, the largest instant messaging service, has long thwarted attempts by competitors, namely Microsoft, from tapping into its servers and communicating with its IM users. Server-to-server interoperability has become a controversial topic because rival instant messaging providers want to communicate with AOL's enormous customer base.

Other companies, such as IBM and even Microsoft's server group, have said interoperability will be crucial in IM's adoption as a business communications tool. However, AOL, MSN and Yahoo have amassed large enough user bases that opening up these networks would not be feasible without a business incentive.

Endeavor Technology considers the launch of its Magi Secure XIM product a solution to the issue of interoperability. The company plans to sell the technology to other companies, bundling the service with security and authentication, but does not have any customers who have implemented the service. YET :0)give'em chance lol

Microsoft and AOL declined to comment on the product.YET :0)

Tris

Those flying banners and kicking anti ains posters are great guys, TRIS great cut &paste ,a noble effort, G_C, art -work you should die for, but ains and I were having a little chat early this morning, and a small niggle is around, nothing to get worried about , so don`t stop the efforts.
We did however notice, pouring over our charts that TAD is now at its all time low, but with ains magic fingers at work, he dicovered a little known charting trick, its called extrapolation, now don`t ask too many details as ains is the expert as you know. Fundermentally( an ainsism, very technical), you find the last jump in TAD share price, extend the rising line , and voila.
The good news is , the extrapolation shows TAD at , wait for it , A POUND BY XMAS,

SO ITS BUY, BUY


bye

Dave

I see the fraud is back

M

Just a reminder folks....from the real Quiddy

quidnunc - 26 Mar'03 - 07:37 - 33441 of 33455


Good god! some sensible debate. Wonders will never cease.
I have to confess that i've always found ravey more of an irritant than ainsoph.
Its like having a parrot screaming in your ear all the time.
At least ainsoph always got a view on the action.

Quiddy
(the real one and not the oily incarnation on moanyam)

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2132481,00.html

Start-up bridges instant messaging gap
08:57 Wednesday 26th March 2003
Jim Hu, CNET News.com


New software allows users to communicate with Microsoft and AOL's rival messaging services
Start-up Endeavors Technology said it has found a way to bridge the chasm separating popular instant messaging by America Online and Microsoft.

The upstart on Tuesday unveiled software that it claims will allow AOL Instant Messenger users to communicate with MSN Messenger users. Although the two Internet giants have waged battles when one attempted to interoperate with the other, Endeavors Technology believes its workaround will let AOL and MSN users communicate without violating their proprietary networks.

The software, called Magi Secure XIM, works alongside the AOL and MSN tools and creates a communication bridge between the two services. But instead of letting an AOL user directly exchange messages with an MSN user, the software creates a peer-to-peer connection with another person who has downloaded the IM clients and Magi.

Magi, similar to popular IM management software Trillian, does not create a direct connection between AOL and MSN servers. Rather, the software allows a person to integrate both so-called buddy lists onto one interface and send messages to anyone regardless of the system used.

"You can go from desktop to desktop, and you don't have to go through an AOL server," said Kapi Attawar, vice president of marketing at Endeavors.

This may be an important distinction. AOL, the largest instant messaging service, has long thwarted attempts by competitors, and in particular Microsoft, from tapping into its servers and communicating with its IM users. Server-to-server interoperability has become a controversial topic because rival instant messaging providers want to communicate with AOL's enormous customer base.

Other companies, such as IBM and even Microsoft's server group, have said interoperability will be crucial in IM's adoption as a business communications tool. However, AOL, MSN and Yahoo! have amassed large enough user bases that opening up these networks would not be feasible without a business incentive.

Endeavor Technology considers the launch of its Magi Secure XIM product a solution to the issue of interoperability. The company plans to sell the technology to other companies, bundling the service with security and authentication, but does not have any customers who have implemented the service.

Microsoft and AOL declined to comment on the product.

A Closer Look: IM in Office 2003
March 24, 2003
By Christopher Saunders


Collaboration is shaping up to be name of the game this year for a number of the largest enterprise software vendors.

IBM (Quote, Company Info) Lotus is already embarking on a strategy to share Sametime IM and collaboration services with its other applications; Oracle's (Quote, Company Info) application server group and Sun's (Quote, Company Info) Web portal unit each are gearing up to improve their offerings' collaborative features with greater uses of presence.

Microsoft (Quote, Company Info), meanwhile, is poised to launch an all-out assault with a slew of interrelated productivity and communications products starting around mid-year.

One of the first salvos will come in the form of the latest iteration of Redmond's Office suite of productivity tools. Now rebranded Microsoft Office System, the suite ships with a hefty complement of apps: in addition to the well-known "core" applications like Word, PowerPoint, Excel, Outlook and Access, the Beta 2 Kit we reviewed also includes Windows SharePoint Services (and the enterprise-geared SharePoint Portal Server "v2"), FrontPage, Publisher, and OneNote and InfoPath, two additions to the proliferating Office family.

SharePoint points the way

Chief among the suite's new collaborative features is Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services -- a product geared entirely toward joint project work.

For those unfamiliar with the offering (previously known as SharePoint Team Services,) the application revolves around user-created sites that serve as repositories for shared team documents and central locations for online projects and chats. These sites can be made open and accessible to users from a particular domain -- enabling colleagues to discover and work with a peer's or another group's SharePoint site.

The new version of Windows SharePoint Services included in Office System 2003 adds presence awareness, based on users' availability on the .NET Service or Exchange Instant Messaging. As a result, colleagues' and partners' statuses are syndicated through SharePoint documents, lists, calendars, discussions, and surveys. Members also can choose to receive notifications via IM (if online) when SharePoint site content changes.

Ideally, this setup eases the task of finding and working with peers and partners. As a result, that's a feature likely to catch the eye of large organizations, who increasingly are looking to better manage their internal knowledge bases by making use of Web portals and integrated IM and presence.

In another major overhaul, users can now create live SharePoint sites directly from within Office applications, working on documents with their colleagues and spawning chat sessions. That's a marked improvement from attempting to work with a colleague using the awkward Online Collaboration command from Office 2000 applications, which relied on the powerful but dated and often-overlooked Windows NetMeeting as its core vehicle for document sharing, and IM and video conferencing. (For one thing, embedded presence in the new setup makes it easier to detect a colleague's availability than had been the case under NetMeeting, which typically required logging into a prearranged ILS server. Its fans will appreciate that the suite still supports NetMeeting collaboration, however.)

The guts of Microsoft Office System

While SharePoint provides site-based collaboration that's tied neatly into Office 2003's core applications -- including Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Access, and Outlook -- those central apps also benefit from embedded IM and alerting.

The key is having peers' IM handles already registered in users' Outlook Contact Lists and, more than likely, also on the Exchange Server. After that, special fields in Word, Excel, and the like are supposed to reflect colleagues' availability, and each application can spawn instant messaging sessions.

In Word 11, Word documents can recognize and glean presence information for contacts that a user types into a document, with some caveats: the contact must have been e-mailed from Outlook 2003, and must be a .NET Service / Microsoft Passport user. The mechanism for embedded presence is handled throughout much of the Office suite through XML-based "Smart Tags," which show whether contacts are available for chatting on mouseover.

Similar features are supposed to be available in Excel and PowerPoint, but I couldn't get them to function either. Additionally, in Word, I could only get this to work consistently if a contact used their main e-mail address as their .NET Service/Passport ID -- having a main e-mail address that differed from their MSN Messenger username means the two can't be linked (at least in this beta).

Outlook does a better job of leveraging its presence-related improvements. Building on progress made in Office XP, e-mail, meeting views, and the Contact List reflect users' availability -- so if my editor, Kevin, is online, I can right-click on his name to initiate an IM session, or can click to send him an e-mail. Calendars, Tasks and Contact Lists also can be perused and edited by two parties simultaneously.

Despite some problems -- this is a beta release, after all -- Microsoft seems to be making progress in integrating presence into these applications. That's especially the case for enterprises using SharePoint, which makes it very easy for a user to locate an online peer, begin chatting about a current project, and then move into full-fledged document-sharing.

For businesses already doing much of their communications using Microsoft Outlook and MSN Messenger or Exchange Messenger, I expect that the presence-enabled features of Office 2003 will make the often-overused adjective "seamless" actually seem appropriate here: when Smart Tags' contact recognition is working properly, an impressive amount of collaboration can be handled entirely from within a single Office 11 application, obviating the need to use Messenger to repeatedly swap documents with incremental changes.

Microsoft Project receives an overhaul as well. Project Server integrates with SharePoint Services to centrally organize and track Project activity, which in turn ties it back into SharePoint's Document and Meeting Spaces, with their embedded presence.

What's become of the apps I once knew?

Office is one component in Redmond, Wash.-based Microsoft's big push into collaborative enterprise applications. In addition to groupware-enabling its popular Microsoft Office suite of productivity tools, the software giant also is readying efforts like its "Greenwich" Realtime Collaboration Server, which features IM and can serve as a foundation for other presence-enabled enterprise communications, like videoconferencing.

In many ways, Greenwich represents an overhaul of the concept behind Exchange Instant Messaging with the addition of powerful new communications technologies. The Office System 2003 Beta 2 Kit, on the other hand, suggests that Microsoft's product lineup is maturing by not only introducing important, new components (like the suite's support for XML) but through firming existing products' integration with each other, and with now-ubiquitous services like MSN Messenger / Windows Messenger.

Of course, much remains before Office 2003 ships later this year. Many of the new features in the Office System are controversial (like the suite's support for Microsoft-flavored XML) or, indeed, very much still in flux (for instance, it's not clear whether OneNote and the XML form-creator InfoPath will make it into the final version.) Other features, like presence-detection in the core Office 2003 apps, remains flaky. And some applications, like Publisher, seem to have missed out on IM and SharePoint improvements entirely.

Yet the overall direction that Office is taking by threading collaborative tools throughout the suite suggests that the product's designers are fully appreciative of the potential for workplace IM and presence, and of the ways in which everyday business users might truly begin using groupware -- instead of just ignoring tools like NetMeeting.

Christopher Saunders is managing editor of InstantMessagingPlanet.com.

yes moneylender, I have to agree with you the fraud is back, that is indisputibly not the ains we know and love posting, I was beginning to suspect something. He would never misread a share price as being up not down, he would never imply that the TAD broker forecast of 2004 being a zero dividend and zero EPS growth was good news, this would be mis-representation on a big scale would`t it? , oh no something is fishy in the frog pond,

DAVE

Just a reminder folks....from the real Quiddy

quidnunc - 26 Mar'03 - 07:37 - 33441 of 33455


Good god! some sensible debate. Wonders will never cease.
I have to confess that i've always found ravey more of an irritant than ainsoph.
Its like having a parrot screaming in your ear all the time.
At least ainsoph always got a view on the action.

Quiddy
(the real one and not the oily incarnation on moanyam)