Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Blooms at Aldgate went years ago (1996). I had an office a few yards away. The Aldgate branch was the original one but Blooms in golders Green is still there. The set up at the Aldgate branch was very starnge and it may be the same in Golders Green. The waiters were all self employed and ran a micro business within the reatsurant. The restaurant sold the food to the waiters who then sold it onto the customers.

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apparantly there is a newish Blooms in Edgware. It opened in 2007.

Edgware branch

Found this. I used to eat there about once a month or more. The waiters were bizzare in their behaviour. It was like they were doing you a favour by letting you eat there.

http://eastlondonhistory.com/blooms-restaurant-whitechapel/

"some of the most spectacularly rude service in London"

The 1950s East End was still the centre of Londons Jewish community, and the reopened Blooms was an instant success with both local people and celebrities. Everybody would queue for their lockshen or gefilte fish - even Charlie Chaplin. The great London comic was a friend of Bloom, but when the restaurateur invited him to jump the queue, the modest Chaplin declined and waited his turn.

Other celebs were less accommodating. Frank Sinatra ordered a special delivery from Blooms to his suite at the Savoy. Sidney obliged, putting the meal on silver plates. The food was enjoyed, but the plates were never seen again, to the understandable horror of the parsimonious Bloom. This, after all, was a man who insisted that his waiters buy each meal from the kitchen, the staff then earning commission on what they sold.

This unique system of payment produced Blooms famous quality of service, politely described as informal. With the waiters on piecework, it was unsurprising that they would bully customers into eating quickly.

From the welcome, Sit there and wait till Im ready, to the final slamming down of the bill, the customer was the enemy, remembered journalist Simon Jenkins in an Evening Standard piece in 1966.

Yet the food was so good that customers would tolerate the rudeness. The noise of people waiting and dining was immense. You could stand up and sing an operatic aria without attracting much attention, recalled writer John Sandilands in 1978.

I remember eating there too. The walls were covered with a big black and white print of petticoat lane in the 40's. There was an old fellow outside on a sunday who use to sell bagels.

You're quite right about the Edgware branch - I'd forgotten about it.

fred/nick,
http://www.ocduk.org/

They might be able to help you, but you might be too far gone.

i worked for many years at 1 Brick Lane, and as i was pretty fit then, it was my job to get the salt beef sandwiches from Bloom's as i could get them back to the office while they were still hot.

in those days, there was still Moss Marks's deli in Wentworth Street - about a dozen qualities of smoked salmon + barrels of pickled cucumbers and herrings - and Kossoff's bakery also in Wentworth Street, who made "proper" light rye bread ..... indeed, it was still very much a jewish area, and it's a shame i didn't have the nous to take pix at the time as the area was just starting to be redeveloped.


anyway, back to the chopped liver .... to do it properly, really requires schmalz (chicken fat), but other than that, it's very simple ..... a couple of onions and 6 hard boiled eggs to 500gm chicken livers (organic are significantly better).

obviously chop and gently fry off the onions and then the chicken livers in the chicken fat.
pulse all through a food processor, but make sure you leave it coarse.

cynic-thanks-I will get my wife to prepare some for me-would it help to have some hard boiled eggs included?

Yes Blooms at GG still there-what a monument of a time warp it is. Used to work in Cannon Street Road E1-anyone remember Roggs there?-a great deli sadly now no longer there as our Asian friends have taken over.

Oh such great days-Fred and fahel-join the club-you dont know what you have missed out on!!!!

Shavuot in 2010 is on Wednesday, the 19th of May.

Note that in the Jewish calander, a holiday begins on the sunset of the previous day, so observing Jews will celebrate Shavuot on the sunset of Tuesday, the 18th of May.

Enjoy the holiday my many Jewish friends.

Shavuot (helpinfo) (or Shavuos (helpinfo), in Ashkenazi usage; Hebrew: שבועות‎, lit. "Weeks") is a Jewish holiday that occurs on the sixth day of the Hebrew month of Sivan (late May or early June). Shavuot commemorates the anniversary of the day God gave the Torah to the entire Israelite nation assembled at Mount Sinai, although the association between the giving of the Torah (Matan Torah) and Shavuot is not explicit in the Biblical text. The holiday is one of the Shalosh Regalim, the three Biblical pilgrimage festivals. It marks the conclusion of the Counting of the Omer.

The date of Shavuot is directly linked to that of Passover. The Torah mandates the seven-week Counting of the Omer, beginning on the second day of Passover and immediately followed by Shavuot. This counting of days and weeks is understood to express anticipation and desire for the Giving of the Torah. On Passover, the Jewish people were freed from their enslavement to Pharaoh; on Shavuot they were given the Torah and became a nation committed to serving God.

and it pretty much coincides with pentecost - not quite sure why, as the one has nothing to do with the other, but i do not believe it to be happenstance

Another group of people believing in fairies and Father Christmas!

Nah - that's all just a bit of historical context for stuffing yourself with pancakes and cheesecake.

i'm a yid, but even i know that pancake day is +/-mid february/march = shrove tuesday

Someone sent me this link with the subject Scary what the Jews are up against



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fSvyv0urTE&feature=player_embedded



Hatred demonstrated by this young woman is what has and continues to perpetuate the horrible things the Jewish people, and now non-Jewish Americans are up against. Nobody is perfect and this woman demonstrates that some are further away from perfect than others

That's a very silly video. Why should she condemn Hamas? It is just a different point of view. Would Israeli leaders condemn the Israeli/Jewish terrorists during the British occupation of Palestine when they killed 91 people in the bombing of the King David hotel. Telephoned warnings were sent, but not to the British authorities. Plenty of British soldiers were killed by the Irgun. The Irgun's radio network announced that it would mourn for the Jewish victims, but not the British ones. This was explained by claiming that Britain had not mourned for the millions of Jews who died in the Nazi Holocaust.No remorse was expressed for the largest group of victims, the Arab dead.


Many became leaders of Israel later, such as Menachem Begin. It is exactly the same situation now in reverse.

Hays,

They won't be able, or don't prepared to understand.

Yuff and a few others, represent bricks in a stone wall, who think the status quo, is the right position to be in.

Even the ex-head of Israeli Army thinks that it is time for "Real Talks and Negotiations" to take place.

and i thought fred had checked in to see how to make proper gehackte leber ...... wrong yet again!

Fred, I'm very disappointed with you.

Hundreds of posts on this thread, many way too long for anyone to ever bother reading, and yet not a single decent recipe. Get a grip man!

don't tell me i have to start posting recipes on here to keep Gausie happy (Fred is never happy, so he doesn't count)

That Peter Mandelson gets everywhere
:-)

"Even the ex-head of Israeli Army thinks that it is time for "Real Talks and Negotiations" to take place."

Come on cynic - just a couple of milchig/halavi recipes to keep me sweet.