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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

In The Land of the B - 17 May 2010 14:10 - 1979 of 6906

fred/nick,
http://www.ocduk.org/

They might be able to help you, but you might be too far gone.

cynic - 17 May 2010 15:01 - 1980 of 6906

i worked for many years at 1 Brick Lane, and as i was pretty fit then, it was my job to get the salt beef sandwiches from Bloom's as i could get them back to the office while they were still hot.

in those days, there was still Moss Marks's deli in Wentworth Street - about a dozen qualities of smoked salmon + barrels of pickled cucumbers and herrings - and Kossoff's bakery also in Wentworth Street, who made "proper" light rye bread ..... indeed, it was still very much a jewish area, and it's a shame i didn't have the nous to take pix at the time as the area was just starting to be redeveloped.


anyway, back to the chopped liver .... to do it properly, really requires schmalz (chicken fat), but other than that, it's very simple ..... a couple of onions and 6 hard boiled eggs to 500gm chicken livers (organic are significantly better).

obviously chop and gently fry off the onions and then the chicken livers in the chicken fat.
pulse all through a food processor, but make sure you leave it coarse.

yuff - 17 May 2010 15:27 - 1981 of 6906

cynic-thanks-I will get my wife to prepare some for me-would it help to have some hard boiled eggs included?

Yes Blooms at GG still there-what a monument of a time warp it is. Used to work in Cannon Street Road E1-anyone remember Roggs there?-a great deli sadly now no longer there as our Asian friends have taken over.

Oh such great days-Fred and fahel-join the club-you dont know what you have missed out on!!!!

yuff - 17 May 2010 15:31 - 1982 of 6906

Shavuot in 2010 is on Wednesday, the 19th of May.

Note that in the Jewish calander, a holiday begins on the sunset of the previous day, so observing Jews will celebrate Shavuot on the sunset of Tuesday, the 18th of May.

Enjoy the holiday my many Jewish friends.

yuff - 17 May 2010 15:33 - 1983 of 6906

Shavuot (helpinfo) (or Shavuos (helpinfo), in Ashkenazi usage; Hebrew: שבועות‎, lit. "Weeks") is a Jewish holiday that occurs on the sixth day of the Hebrew month of Sivan (late May or early June). Shavuot commemorates the anniversary of the day God gave the Torah to the entire Israelite nation assembled at Mount Sinai, although the association between the giving of the Torah (Matan Torah) and Shavuot is not explicit in the Biblical text. The holiday is one of the Shalosh Regalim, the three Biblical pilgrimage festivals. It marks the conclusion of the Counting of the Omer.

The date of Shavuot is directly linked to that of Passover. The Torah mandates the seven-week Counting of the Omer, beginning on the second day of Passover and immediately followed by Shavuot. This counting of days and weeks is understood to express anticipation and desire for the Giving of the Torah. On Passover, the Jewish people were freed from their enslavement to Pharaoh; on Shavuot they were given the Torah and became a nation committed to serving God.

cynic - 17 May 2010 15:39 - 1984 of 6906

and it pretty much coincides with pentecost - not quite sure why, as the one has nothing to do with the other, but i do not believe it to be happenstance

Haystack - 17 May 2010 15:40 - 1985 of 6906

Another group of people believing in fairies and Father Christmas!

Gausie - 17 May 2010 15:51 - 1986 of 6906

Nah - that's all just a bit of historical context for stuffing yourself with pancakes and cheesecake.

cynic - 17 May 2010 15:57 - 1987 of 6906

i'm a yid, but even i know that pancake day is +/-mid february/march = shrove tuesday

yuff - 17 May 2010 16:05 - 1988 of 6906

Someone sent me this link with the subject Scary what the Jews are up against



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fSvyv0urTE&feature=player_embedded



Hatred demonstrated by this young woman is what has and continues to perpetuate the horrible things the Jewish people, and now non-Jewish Americans are up against. Nobody is perfect and this woman demonstrates that some are further away from perfect than others

Haystack - 17 May 2010 16:51 - 1989 of 6906

That's a very silly video. Why should she condemn Hamas? It is just a different point of view. Would Israeli leaders condemn the Israeli/Jewish terrorists during the British occupation of Palestine when they killed 91 people in the bombing of the King David hotel. Telephoned warnings were sent, but not to the British authorities. Plenty of British soldiers were killed by the Irgun. The Irgun's radio network announced that it would mourn for the Jewish victims, but not the British ones. This was explained by claiming that Britain had not mourned for the millions of Jews who died in the Nazi Holocaust.No remorse was expressed for the largest group of victims, the Arab dead.


Many became leaders of Israel later, such as Menachem Begin. It is exactly the same situation now in reverse.

Fred1new - 17 May 2010 19:33 - 1990 of 6906

Hays,

They won't be able, or don't prepared to understand.

Yuff and a few others, represent bricks in a stone wall, who think the status quo, is the right position to be in.

Even the ex-head of Israeli Army thinks that it is time for "Real Talks and Negotiations" to take place.






cynic - 17 May 2010 20:35 - 1991 of 6906

and i thought fred had checked in to see how to make proper gehackte leber ...... wrong yet again!

Gausie - 17 May 2010 22:51 - 1992 of 6906

Fred, I'm very disappointed with you.

Hundreds of posts on this thread, many way too long for anyone to ever bother reading, and yet not a single decent recipe. Get a grip man!

cynic - 18 May 2010 06:17 - 1993 of 6906

don't tell me i have to start posting recipes on here to keep Gausie happy (Fred is never happy, so he doesn't count)

Camelot - 18 May 2010 07:00 - 1994 of 6906

That Peter Mandelson gets everywhere
:-)

"Even the ex-head of Israeli Army thinks that it is time for "Real Talks and Negotiations" to take place."

Gausie - 18 May 2010 07:09 - 1995 of 6906

Come on cynic - just a couple of milchig/halavi recipes to keep me sweet.

cynic - 18 May 2010 07:19 - 1996 of 6906

sorry, but i'm not good on puds and sweetmeats...... but i've got some good and simple fish recipes that genuinely work

cynic - 18 May 2010 07:21 - 1997 of 6906

MOORISH MONKFISH

During a recent holiday in the Algarve, I came across Algoas, a proper Portuguese restaurant near Santa Barbara, between Faro and Loul There I sampled (guzzled would be more accurate!) a cataplan of mixed fish, rather than the traditional pork and clams.

Here is my variation; I am sure you will be as amazed as I at how quick and easy it is.
The tomato sauce could even be made several hours in advance.
I use a large lidded frying pan for the whole of the cooking, but a wide saucepan would also be OK.

RECIPE - for 4
600 gm Monkfish - off the bone and cut into 3-4cm cubes
12 Large uncooked prawns - peeled and de-veined
12 Smallish scallops
2-3 tbspn Flour
3 tbsp Olive oil

1 large Red onion - quartered and cut into 0.5cm slices
2 medium Green peppers - quartered and cut into 0.5cm slices
3 fat cloves Garlic - finely chopped
500 gm Tinned, chopped Italian tomatoes
Large pinch Saffron
Large pinch Ground cumin
tsp Hot chilli - Waitrose Oriental section (Conimex)
Handful Chopped flat parsley
2 tbsp Olive oil


Monkfish
Dredge in the flour and fry off quickly in the olive oil to seal and colour a little
Remove and set aside when still undercooked - it will be finished off later in the tomato sauce


Tomato Sauce
Heat the olive oil
Add the onions and soften for about 5 minutes and then add the peppers and garlic
Cook for a further minutes before adding the tomatoes, saffron, cumin and chilli
Reduce until the sauce is pretty thick - the juices from the fish will later thin it down a bit
Stir in the chopped parsley and adjust seasoning to suit


Final Stage
Reheat the tomato sauce and add the monkfish
Cover and simmer gently for about 10 minutes before throwing in the prawns and scallops
Simmer for a further 5 minutes - check the seasoning and thats it


Serve with a speciality bread like naan or plain basmati rice (if you want more cooking) plus a salad and a reasonable Beaujolais - chilled if you like.

Another recipe from Bertie Brill

Fred1new - 18 May 2010 11:01 - 1998 of 6906

LA RECETTE ANCIENNE

Comme d'habitude la chair canon doit est a alignpar deux corporel
Fanatique et Sectaire

Quand ils fera jamais apprend.


Men led by donkeys comes to mind.
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