Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Why not use condoms if you are a bloke, or if you are a slut then there is absolutely no need to get pregnant - unless you want to milk the benefit system in this country. I just cannot see the argument in favour of unmarried or married couples who keep having children and are totally incapable of paying for their upkeep and depend on the tax payers in this country to subsidise the care for their offspring.

Does anyone know that it only takes once and the girl has to make the biggest decission of her whole life. The girl may have to live and die in deial.

Sorry doodlebug my timing was not that best good with your remark and mine - I would suggest you are of the younger society. You would not remember the obscene things one had to use to prevent pregnancy.

pill beats dutch cap every time!

As a floating voter (but this time certainly labour) I still feel the need to contribute to who gets what and its as simple as this.

If you have paid into the system ie tax and NI you are entittled to claim all benefits prior to Osbournes defunked Autumn Statement.

If you havent paid into the system eg, arranged marriages from asia etc etc and euro crowd coming in for freebies, you get nothing.

Its simple and as easy as that.

Obviously we would need to have some regulation on contribution years, but high earners, pensioners etc etc if you have paid in YOU GET IT. Free loaders if you havent paid in YOU DONT GET IT.......GO ELSEWHERE.

I like that GF.... if only it was implementable to some degree...


Britain has highest divorce rate in Europe.

1911 around 1.4b on the planet
2012 7b
and yet we are now tod that people are more educated bloody joke is it not
the only thing they know is breed to live a free life of hand out

Elderly should sacrifice part of their pension or downsize their homes to cover OAP care bills, say Lib Dems

Ministers said OAPs should be encouraged to accept smaller pension payouts or move into smaller homes to help pay for their care
Comments, which come amid ongoing confusion over the future of elderly care funding, are likely to infuriate pensioners' groups

Hi GF,

Fully agree with your views, but I can't understand why as a floating voter, you would this time vote Labour.
Remember it was Labour that allowed the welfare state and immigration to get totally out of hand in this country.
Although due to public pressure they would not go fully back to their old ways, they would without doubt not tighten the rules re deserving/none deserving recipients as as much as Conservatives would, (they have stated as much).
Have you considered UKIP and looked at their policies.

Yep gk, i thought the same... No more boom and bust... lets just try bust

Greekman, voters seems to have very short memories.
Labour imherited a fully functioning vibrant economy and during their prolonged period in power managed to smash that economy with their spend spend and let's spend a whole lot more policy. Doubling the national debt from something like 450 billion to nearly 1 trillion pounds. Immigration out of control, benefit system out of control and services such as the NHS, education creaking to the point of collapse. Labour took over ten years to create chaos, but the current government is lambasted for failing to put everything right in just two years

Obviously we should all vote Labour next time around and give them another chance to finally destroy the country. Vote Labour yer mugs!!

Steady on chuckles Fred will be having a coronary at this rate, he's spent a fortune on those Gordon Brown autographed photies don't you know:O) not to mention the pyjamas and matching dressing gown!

chuckles, you've said it better than i could possibly have...


Brings a whole new meaning to 'lets go for broke...'

back to benefits they have given the lazy sods a 1% increase for the next 3 years
the poor people working in mist jobs will not get a rise at all they should of taken off 1% for the next 3 years

Hi Greekman .........voting labour as I dont want to be governed by a set of Toffs for another 5 years. Toffs I might add who havent a clue.

Just one practising economist in the cabinet........ and hes a LIB DEM. (vince cable)

Previous Tory governments havent had all this priveledged brigade. I detest the idea of this and hand downs.

These people are the spawn of those who robbed and thieved the common wealth and its come back to bite us in a big way.

Give me hardworking Torys like weve had in the past from middle class backgrounds who know what its like out their........ and Ill vote for them again...... BUT not this present load of bafoons.

By the way just 3% of the welfare budget goes on those who are unemployed.

Strange how its all gone quiet about knicking the Bankers and raiding off shore bank accounts!!.

How do you quantify being a toff?

being smug with the family behind them but done fcuk all in the real world
got were they are via daddy and mummy

ah, the inverted snob writes then!
you'll be telling us next about walking 5 miles to school and back with shoes made from old car tyres, but you felt lucky as some couldn't even afford those .... but now through your own wheeling and dealing you can afford the car to go with them
does that make you a more admirable person?
I think not

GF,

Are you nicking my identity?

8-)

At the moment, one of the problems with the present tory elite which is “seemingly” in control of the Conservative party, is its disconnect with the “expectancies” of the large “middle class” group and the main body of society.

(Often, their own wealth having been produced from the middle class and old fashioned “working” class.)

Also, it is apparent that they are more involved with protecting their own “lot” or
“group” rather than improvement and raising standards of society as a whole.

Also, it is strange that the lower “middle class” is “permitted” a lower level of disposable income after tax is expected to be inspired to work harder, while the more “affluent” (by luck, birth, or due to hard work) is inhibited, or would be discouraged
from working harder if their disposable income is slightly reduced.

If one relates back to the development of “wealth fare”, “social services” and “education” the driving force was to increase the “health”, “wellbeing” and evolution of society as a whole.

Respect of that concept, has led to improvement of the UK as a whole over the last 100 years or so. But, probably, the greatest improvements have been in during the last 30-40 years. This government is in process of regressing and is celebrated by some who have misconceptions based of “Survival of the Species” theories.

Next time one visits a new school, a hospital or receives “medical” care, recall the standards of those institutions 20-30 years ago.
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Back to the market. It seems odd to-day.