Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Hi GF,

Fully agree with your views, but I can't understand why as a floating voter, you would this time vote Labour.
Remember it was Labour that allowed the welfare state and immigration to get totally out of hand in this country.
Although due to public pressure they would not go fully back to their old ways, they would without doubt not tighten the rules re deserving/none deserving recipients as as much as Conservatives would, (they have stated as much).
Have you considered UKIP and looked at their policies.

Yep gk, i thought the same... No more boom and bust... lets just try bust

Greekman, voters seems to have very short memories.
Labour imherited a fully functioning vibrant economy and during their prolonged period in power managed to smash that economy with their spend spend and let's spend a whole lot more policy. Doubling the national debt from something like 450 billion to nearly 1 trillion pounds. Immigration out of control, benefit system out of control and services such as the NHS, education creaking to the point of collapse. Labour took over ten years to create chaos, but the current government is lambasted for failing to put everything right in just two years

Obviously we should all vote Labour next time around and give them another chance to finally destroy the country. Vote Labour yer mugs!!

Steady on chuckles Fred will be having a coronary at this rate, he's spent a fortune on those Gordon Brown autographed photies don't you know:O) not to mention the pyjamas and matching dressing gown!

chuckles, you've said it better than i could possibly have...


Brings a whole new meaning to 'lets go for broke...'

back to benefits they have given the lazy sods a 1% increase for the next 3 years
the poor people working in mist jobs will not get a rise at all they should of taken off 1% for the next 3 years

Hi Greekman .........voting labour as I dont want to be governed by a set of Toffs for another 5 years. Toffs I might add who havent a clue.

Just one practising economist in the cabinet........ and hes a LIB DEM. (vince cable)

Previous Tory governments havent had all this priveledged brigade. I detest the idea of this and hand downs.

These people are the spawn of those who robbed and thieved the common wealth and its come back to bite us in a big way.

Give me hardworking Torys like weve had in the past from middle class backgrounds who know what its like out their........ and Ill vote for them again...... BUT not this present load of bafoons.

By the way just 3% of the welfare budget goes on those who are unemployed.

Strange how its all gone quiet about knicking the Bankers and raiding off shore bank accounts!!.

How do you quantify being a toff?

being smug with the family behind them but done fcuk all in the real world
got were they are via daddy and mummy

ah, the inverted snob writes then!
you'll be telling us next about walking 5 miles to school and back with shoes made from old car tyres, but you felt lucky as some couldn't even afford those .... but now through your own wheeling and dealing you can afford the car to go with them
does that make you a more admirable person?
I think not

GF,

Are you nicking my identity?

8-)

At the moment, one of the problems with the present tory elite which is “seemingly” in control of the Conservative party, is its disconnect with the “expectancies” of the large “middle class” group and the main body of society.

(Often, their own wealth having been produced from the middle class and old fashioned “working” class.)

Also, it is apparent that they are more involved with protecting their own “lot” or
“group” rather than improvement and raising standards of society as a whole.

Also, it is strange that the lower “middle class” is “permitted” a lower level of disposable income after tax is expected to be inspired to work harder, while the more “affluent” (by luck, birth, or due to hard work) is inhibited, or would be discouraged
from working harder if their disposable income is slightly reduced.

If one relates back to the development of “wealth fare”, “social services” and “education” the driving force was to increase the “health”, “wellbeing” and evolution of society as a whole.

Respect of that concept, has led to improvement of the UK as a whole over the last 100 years or so. But, probably, the greatest improvements have been in during the last 30-40 years. This government is in process of regressing and is celebrated by some who have misconceptions based of “Survival of the Species” theories.

Next time one visits a new school, a hospital or receives “medical” care, recall the standards of those institutions 20-30 years ago.
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Back to the market. It seems odd to-day.

SPOT ON FRED.

havent filled in a CV or application form in their life.

been given a job through the old boys net work........ ie PLACED.

Got to admire Gates and Buffet both giving their kids F all. Say that they should stand up on their own 2 feet etc.

Same with me. I have a son, who will get a nomimal amount to buy books and forge his own way through life.

No not nicking anything Fred just so mad that middle class people are falling for boy georges trap ie, divide and rule.

Mind if the first opinion poll since this tactic is anything to go by Labour have increased their following by 2 points which would be........ a 20% increase , ie now poll of polls 12% in front of posh boys lot.

Can see through them these days.

Correction...... sorry Fred and tanker. Tankers post I was refering to. Post 19965.

GF.

My father, in general provided support while I was in "education", but otherwise expected me to do the same.

I have in general done the same for my daughters, but made sure there was always support to give when I thought they would benefit from their "adventures", otherwise they financed themselves.

My wife, I think, but I have never been told, has given more directly, but has always been very involved with their development and that of our grandchildren.

fre well donemy one daughter as 5 shops the other lives in a life of leasure

er...

Being a practising economist is not that much of a recommendation. Cable is a bit of a tax and spend type similar to Labour. Ken Clarke is probably the best Chancellor in recent memory. He had a law degree and was a barrister. At least Osborne was the shadow Chancellor. By the way Cable has praised Osborne several times over the last 2 years and has said he is on the right track.

Praising Osborne, is I suppose morally better than stabbing him in the back.

However, sometimes, I think there is not enough immorality to go around.

8-)