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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

spitfire43 - 02 May 2008 21:31 - 2005 of 21973

Good link Falcothou........Very informative, just incase anyone feels too bullish with this rally, it would be worth reading.

Falcothou - 02 May 2008 21:35 - 2006 of 21973

I get the impression the FED will do just about anything to get the Pamplona feeling including being slightly economical with the truth!

BigTed - 02 May 2008 21:53 - 2008 of 21973

I think it has been a bit rosy for a while now, and i feel the FTSE is well ahead of itself, always difficult to do the opposite of what your mind tells you, but its like when it was all doom and gloom, it never only goes one way, as it was oversold @5400, it is just as likely now overbought @6200...

maggiebt4 - 02 May 2008 22:36 - 2009 of 21973

Thanks for link Big T will be able to sleep this WE with the short still running!

Falcothou - 03 May 2008 19:45 - 2010 of 21973

Something for the weekend
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/amerman/2008/0502.html

bhunt1910 - 04 May 2008 23:35 - 2011 of 21973

Careful Maggie - there is a bit of a feel good factor starting to come through with some commentators starting to say the banks & Building societies have bottomed. Watch what happens with the dow tomorrow - that will be a pretty good indicator. Me - I am too chicken to keep a position open at the moment as I feel it could go either way - am only playing short term trades and trend betting

maggiebt4 - 05 May 2008 00:40 - 2012 of 21973

Thanks Bhunt for advice will be watching carefully tomorrow Have actually considered taking a long and a short with the volitility at the moment both could work. But haven't got the balls to put my money where my mouth is yet! The short's open until June will let it run hoping to get out on evens or a small loss at some stage agree it's a bit hairy at the minute. Still doing bit of short term trades hoping to minimise the loss if it doesn't go my way!

spitfire43 - 05 May 2008 07:46 - 2013 of 21973

We are on a knife edge at this time, there does seem to be optimism from press and some analylists that worst is over. For me I feel this is a suckers rally, but you can never be sure. So apart from one open short position against my long portfolio, I will just go with the trend on indices and close out before the close of play.

We may have a clearer picture towards the end of the week.

Good Luck............

BigTed - 05 May 2008 14:22 - 2014 of 21973

Got to admit i quickly decided, after opening both CFD and SB accounts, that trading Indicies, currencies and even commodities wasn't really for me - I seem to be able to predict the markets with a fair amount of success when i hold no position, but actually its more to do with hindsight, i find it difficult to let winning positions run and far easier to let stops take me out for a loss.
I decided to open a short at 6200 and will probably let it run, if it goes against me i will probably double up at 6400, because for certain i dont think the market will just keep gaining, i will make money on any pull backs (and lets face it, there will be pull backs) to counter the loss on my current position.
On balance though, i feel we have got ahead of ourselves and a correction is due...

maggiebt4 - 05 May 2008 15:27 - 2015 of 21973

Inclined to agree B T hoping for some resistance at 6200 bu tmaybe it's wishful thinking.

Falcothou - 05 May 2008 15:49 - 2016 of 21973

Oil nearly hitting 120 again despite dollar strength!

Toya - 05 May 2008 17:12 - 2017 of 21973

Falcothou: according to Thomson Financial News the price of oil rose "amid investor jitters over further violence in Nigeria and potential escalation in tensions between Iran and the West."

Falcothou - 05 May 2008 19:48 - 2018 of 21973

The West would be in big trouble if Iran refused to supply it let alone go to war. Some people suggest that Bush's remit is to renumerate oil and defense sectors and he has done a fantastic job! I don't know what percentage of oil revenue goes into defense for your average gushing tinnpot state but judging by the sabre rattling in Chavez land and everywhere else quite a lot.

Falcothou - 05 May 2008 20:57 - 2019 of 21973

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=aY8GpLUsUKMQ&refer=uk

bhunt1910 - 07 May 2008 09:06 - 2020 of 21973

managed to trade the dow yesterday to good effect.

Been looking at the FTSE today and it is looking toppy - tempted to short - any thoughts?

maggiebt4 - 07 May 2008 10:43 - 2021 of 21973

I think it looks toppy too but it refuses to agree with me. Not doing anything but sitting on my hands watching my long term short get longer.

bhunt1910 - 07 May 2008 11:20 - 2022 of 21973

Hi Maggie - I decided to go with my train of thought this morning and shorted it at 6240 and again at 6250 - but it refuses to drop.

i just cannot fathom this market - in danger of losing all of yesterdays profits if not careful !!

maggiebt4 - 07 May 2008 11:25 - 2023 of 21973

Hope you make loads today cos if you do I might I don't think FTSE knows what way to go

bhunt1910 - 07 May 2008 11:26 - 2024 of 21973

neither did i expect the dow to push back above 13000 again this morning, this can't all be because of the oil price and the recovery in the dollar ??
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