bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
lukeman
- 21 Sep 2006 21:55
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Guys, as I said months ago, I just dont get it and still dont get it. Take the loss and get your life back!
garyble
- 21 Sep 2006 23:05
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How many "I told you so's" can a person stomach??
hewittalan6
- 22 Sep 2006 07:26
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According to the FT there is a rumour that an SEO cash call is imminent.
maestro
- 22 Sep 2006 07:34
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wow!...they must be pyschic...prats!
cynic
- 22 Sep 2006 07:34
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Alan - that at least has some logic and must surely be almost a no-brainer given the parlous state of the company and its admitted cash greed
maestro
- 22 Sep 2006 07:37
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meanwhile Times traders fill their boots before press article...seen it all before chaps
hewittalan6
- 22 Sep 2006 07:42
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I heard talk also that yesterday was all about cash, but I cannot really confirm it.
Strangely this calms me a little.
If bda news is coming then please let it be about raising money. While ever the contracts I think are being discussed and the Asda stuff I know about is still going to happen, then, for me at any rate, its all just about time.
I have kept repeating not to buy in or buy more at the moment and that I am still in because selling makes no sense to me, given my own position, and this vindicates that. The really bad one would be that Asda had pulled out or the contracts had failed.
Thats the gamble for me, and I suspect many others. Still confident the medium term future is bright, even if there is a cash call.
Alan
cynic
- 22 Sep 2006 07:47
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surely a major cash call, which must be what is needed, could be almost as bad, diluting minuscule shareholders funds to effectively zero
hewittalan6
- 22 Sep 2006 07:52
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We are presuming a major cash call, but that is not necessarily the case. SEO is using up cash, but we do not know for how long. T&G forecast profits for next year, and SEO claim pens poised over contracts. This could effectively mean a fairly small dilution for short term funding.
If the Asda - March thing is true, then they need 6 months cash without any further contracts, to see them earning. Thats about 2million.
Fairly insignificant. if however they need more, because things have stalled, then yes, we could be left with negligable holdings.
Alan
garyble
- 22 Sep 2006 07:56
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A dilution of say 50% with a 5 or 10 bagger shortly after is still far better than bailing, especially if the potential is still there and people believe it.
cynic
- 22 Sep 2006 07:58
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if such a small cash call for a very limited period, why call at all, when clearly it will need to be heavily discounted? ...... should be able to do such a thing through normal banking channels unless the banks have also had enough
hewittalan6
- 22 Sep 2006 08:01
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Thats the point. We do not know any details, just that there is a rumour of a cash call.
For all I know (or the FT for that matter), the rumour is totally wrong, and SEO are about to announce a solution to world peace or a cure for cancer!!!
Yes the cash position is perilous and it is almost certainly right, but we do not know!!
Alan
PATISEAR
- 22 Sep 2006 08:18
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The SP slumped 24% in one day. Should SEO release a RNS stating known/no known reason.
hlyeo98
- 22 Sep 2006 08:26
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I think SEO is running out of cash soon...cash call will be next RNS
Oilywag
- 22 Sep 2006 08:41
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hyleo98
God, I think your powers of deduction are breathtakingly brilliant!!!!
Are you a member of MENSA?
The oily one
hlyeo98
- 22 Sep 2006 08:44
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Of course
pisces
- 22 Sep 2006 08:45
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Strange how the price suddenly dropped to 2p so quickly yesterday yet the millions of subsequent buys did not push the price any higher.Now in a trading range of 1.75p-2p, could this be the dilution price if any more shares are issued?What do you guys think.
hlyeo98
- 22 Sep 2006 08:45
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But unfortunately it doesn't take a MENSA member to deduce this.
hewittalan6
- 22 Sep 2006 08:45
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Forgive the length of the post, but I am trying to work this one out.
Over the last week or so, trading has been more buying than selling, yet the SP has drifted lower and lower.
Yesterday rumours of a cash call saw the sp plummet, but with buys outnumbering sells again!! This stinks of manipulation. But in favour of whom? A lower sp is of no use to someone getting rid of their holding, or of MM's building a holding, because they only hold very short term. it would only suit an invester building or an MM shorting, but if an MM was shorting, sells would outstrip buys.
If we assume the above to be correct, it would explain the rumours. Created to lower the SP and allow someone to stake build on the cheap, but if a cash call is coming then whoever is buying would be better to wait.
I simply cannot explain what has gone on for the last week in terms of normal market dynamics, and I am very concerned that something very wrong is afoot.
lost in a fog of logic here, so any suggestions appreciated.
Alan
hewittalan6
- 22 Sep 2006 08:47
- 20187 of 27111
Oily,
Did you get my e-mail???
Alan