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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

Stan - 18 Feb 2016 08:56 - 20174 of 21973

Down we go then.

HARRYCAT - 18 Feb 2016 09:39 - 20175 of 21973

Blimey! I was right then??? Only just, but might do the lottery this week based on that! ;o)

Stan - 18 Feb 2016 11:08 - 20176 of 21973

Not so fast Harry.. the poxy thing's stalled again -):

cynic - 18 Feb 2016 11:17 - 20177 of 21973

strange how quickly sentiment changes
DOW is having a burst for glory and has just gone north of 16,500

Stan - 18 Feb 2016 14:14 - 20178 of 21973

Dow futures up, but only just.

cynic - 18 Feb 2016 14:23 - 20179 of 21973

cash DOW is still +48 (after +85) and hovering around 16,500

Stan - 18 Feb 2016 16:22 - 20180 of 21973

Had to cut a loss this morning but recouped with some on top for much relief and out for overnight.

Chris Carson - 18 Feb 2016 18:07 - 20181 of 21973


After FTSE 100 breakout, where next?




By Alistair Strang | Thu, 18th February 2016 - 09:35

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After FTSE 100 breakout, where next?

We keep promising ourselves only to discuss the FTSE 100 (UKX) a couple of times a week, but recent shambolic moves require coverage. Hopefully, just hopefully, the movements experienced on the 17th actually have some real implications.

There was a strange phenomena with the shares we cover daily, and on the 16th we discovered only three that actually needed an update. While we padded our output with a few more, we gave the caveat of "this sort of thing often being a precursor to a change in market direction".

It appears we were correct.

The market had been trading in a region where the logical bottom was 4,950 with the result of us frantically looking for valid escape attempts. Our Wednesday lunchtime calculation for clients highlighted something exceedingly strange and it's reproduced below:


UK FTSE: Price at time 11:23AM of production 5957 Trade Type: LONG . Entry: 5960 Exit: Safe exit at 5981 or longer term secondary at 6199 Minimum Stop (in our opinion): 5922 Number of Points in Trade: 21 Secondary looks a bit unlikely

The reason for the 218-point gap between the primary target and the secondary was simple. Once the market started trading above 5,981, it officially broke trend - essentially moving from a near-term perspective to a Big Picture perspective. We'd require clown suits and red noses to accept 6,199 is expected anytime soon, experience teaching us that when something breaks trend, a new trend develops.

FTSE 100

Don't get us wrong, the market has moved from "going down" territory into "not going down" territory, so optimism is permitted. The FTSE Futures market has, at the time of writing [23:12 Wednesday], bettered 6,040 and we're tending to suspect that the initial breakout ambition might be 6,080 points. If above such a level, we're probably going to need the drool wiped off our keyboards as even our 6,199 calculates as slightly conservative!

Importantly, in this week, we've seen the first signals the market has actually bottomed with retail banking exhibiting what passes for integrity with recent rises, along with the food retailers showing surprising strength. The builders seem a bit dodgy still and the oil sector seems only to be favoured amongst a few companies. And of course, the miners appear to have stopped digging holes for their victims' investments.

All this leads us to one conclusion and it's of the UK needing a Valentine's Day every week to drive optimism... Or maybe not. But the market would now need below 5,890 to scare us silly again!

Update:

The Futures suggestion against the FTSE 100 in the Futures Section is insane, but there are currently no sensible target levels between 6,080 and 6,275. If we switch to the 'actual' FTSE itself, the 6,199 thing intrudes, but it is still one heck of a jump.

The problem comes from the large drop on February 8th as it tossed an extra 220 points into the arguments. We'll hopefully be able to make more sense by lunchtime.

This article is for information and discussion purposes only and does not form a recommendation to invest or otherwise. The value of an investment may fall. The investments referred to in this article may not be suitable for all investors, and if in doubt, an investor should seek advice from a qualified investment adviser.

cynic - 18 Feb 2016 18:42 - 20182 of 21973

don't know when that article was dated/timed, but SOUTH is the order of the day, and probably even more heavily tomorrow

my money and mouth are already married and may extend

Chris Carson - 18 Feb 2016 18:50 - 20183 of 21973

That article is just opinion cynic, I'm still bearish.

cynic - 18 Feb 2016 20:05 - 20184 of 21973

as i just wrote on advfn re eu negotiations....

it most certainly worries me that i cannot see uk regaining any meaningful rights to block legislation and similar that are not in the country's interest - interestingly, germany seems to have such a safeguard via its constitution; nuts!

nothing to do with trust, but a view of what might be achievable - or indeed might have been achievable by anyone

cynic - 18 Feb 2016 20:07 - 20185 of 21973

just shorted DOW 16454

cynic - 19 Feb 2016 08:25 - 20186 of 21973

limit up at 16,405 b4 bedtime :-)

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amazed that markets are positive this morning given the news (nonsense) coming out of brussels

Stan - 19 Feb 2016 08:48 - 20187 of 21973

Yes me to, but early days so to speak.

Claret Dragon - 19 Feb 2016 12:13 - 20188 of 21973

50DMA was about the hıgh of the rally for now.



cynic - 19 Feb 2016 18:11 - 20189 of 21973

shorted DOW at 16,378 but as i can't be glued to the screen, have set limit at 16,305

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missed making a small profit on DOW but got out at b/e

Stan - 19 Feb 2016 21:39 - 20190 of 21973

Fts come up trumps again for me today.

cynic - 20 Feb 2016 09:36 - 20191 of 21973

on short tack i presume ..... not at all sure what monday will bring ..... modest applause i'ld guess though it may not have longevity

Stan - 20 Feb 2016 13:12 - 20192 of 21973

Presumption correct, in and out has been working well for me since Dec.

cynic - 20 Feb 2016 13:29 - 20193 of 21973

your prediction for the direction on monday?
shan't hold you to it, i promise :-)
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