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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


waveydavey - 23 Sep 2006 20:38 - 20278 of 27111

maestro that link is dated 2005. FFS stop peddling yesterdays news/crap

Haystack - 23 Sep 2006 20:41 - 20279 of 27111

This will be sub 1p and then bust in spite of maestro's ramps.

maestro - 23 Sep 2006 20:51 - 20280 of 27111

wavey...so what?...businesses take time to reap the rewards....fill ya boots or regret forever

andysmith - 23 Sep 2006 21:21 - 20281 of 27111

Been away but Oh Dear, the need to raise cash was obvious months ago and still we await, even a deal now will not bring immediate revenue to prevent SEO going bust. I will re-state, FORGET Greenseal in short-term, it will not happen quick enough. Starpol is the only life-saver in the locker and IF SEO can convince somebody with credible information that they have deals in the bag then that is the only way they will get the dosh to continue as credibility with the investment community must be zero, millions has been thrown at SEO with no outcome but each time deals were imminent. If they get the dosh, a flutter might be worthwhile, companies have recovered from equally bad situations, other alternatives would be BUST or a take-over if the market cap gets much lower. The problem here was getting into packaging without real experience and the people they employed just didn't deliver. I have no regrets about tipping the potential at 4-5p as it was there and then about selling at 21p due to delays. Markets love potential but hate the reverse, its that simple and whilst iii was annoying at times he turned out to be right due to SEO's poor management of this project and investors including brokers got caught up in the hype and possible mis-information which I think should be investigated. Masterson needs a kick in the knacker satchel for somehow leading people into false belief that he knew deals were in the bag etc but they only have theirselves to blame at the end of the day. I sincerely hope that they survive but hope lessons have been learnt here, you cannot afford (literally) to fall in love with a share.


boldtrader - 23 Sep 2006 21:33 - 20282 of 27111

Are you a teacher Andy?

andysmith - 23 Sep 2006 21:45 - 20283 of 27111

I wonder if Tetrapak could be interested in loaning dosh to SEO or even buying them? Market cap is low and IF SEO have a money making product in Starpol that Walmart are really interested in then Tetrapak might also be interested, afterall, sustainable packaging is high on agenda's and SEO are in deep shit.
Just a thought, no evidence.

garyble - 23 Sep 2006 21:46 - 20284 of 27111

Maestro,

Appears to be a tad inaccurate {edit: conflicting reports see link at bottom} on the Wal-mart scorecard announcement:
http://www.turkishpress.com/nw.asp?s=u&i=060922185559.ernt37kr&t=Wal-Mart+to+cut+packaging+in+environmental+initiative

"Starting in November 2007, Wal-Mart will introduce a "packaging scorecard" to help Wal-Mart buyers to have information about packaging alternatives or more sustainable packaging materials in one place to make better purchasing decisions"

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/09-22-2006/0004438124&EDATE=

"On November 1, 2006, Wal-Mart will introduce a packaging scorecard to more than 2,000 private label suppliers. This is a tool that will allow Wal-Mart buyers to have all the information about packaging alternatives or more sustainable packaging materials in one place, allowing them to make better purchasing decisions"

maestro - 24 Sep 2006 09:57 - 20285 of 27111

Branson link?


The Sunday Times - Business

The Sunday Times September 24, 2006

Rake in the profits from a greener future




THE green issue is drilling down into the business community much quicker than it is making political headway. Businesses are adapting fast to the challenges of global climate change, and in many cases it is the staff and consumers who are driving the changes to encourage renewable energy and waste recycling.
Here are just three examples of how businesses are changing. Even in the opaque world of investment banking, the staff now want to know what the emissions policy is. One chief executive I spoke to last week said he was regularly e-mailed with questions ranging from are we in a carbon- efficient building? to the use of recycled paper.



The property industry is also at the cutting edge of change. One developer told me that when he wants to let a building, it is now standard to first show round the human resources director to check all the green boxes are ticked. Only after that will a deal proceed to the next stage.

And as my colleague Matthew Goodman explains on the opposite page, it is the consumer who is driving the supermarkets to sell greener goods. The result is a green race similar to that experienced with the arms race.

Companies that have not formulated a green policy will have to learn fast, and heres the reason. It is another differentiator that can give a competitive advantage in attracting the brightest graduates.

Many of these graduates have grown up in a home environment where separating their weekly rubbish is part of family life. And now they want to ensure their future employers share similar values.

What is equally significant is that there is now a greater investment appetite to pump money into green technology. As The Sunday Times first revealed two weeks ago, Sir Richard Branson is pouring hundreds of millions of pounds into environmentally friendly investments.

Bransons decision is based on a business, rather than a charitable rationale. He needs to find an alternative biofuel to replace conventional petroleum products. Branson says what has killed these technologies before is the fluctuating price of oil the price comes down and they cant compete.

However, with petrol still above $60 a barrel (and likely to stay that way), the need to find alternative fuel is imperative. Even if the oil price slipped back to $40 a barrel the green momentum would probably slow down for a bit, but it would not stop.

Part of Bransons road-to-Damascus conversion to green came after reading The Weather Makers by Tim Flannery. He is now telling every business person to read it.

Some of the smart hedge funds such as Lansdowne Partners have already built up a spread of small investments in renewable energy. Someone will make a lot of money, although identifying the future winners is still a lottery. In most cases, the businesses lack scale and the management and the technology have not been sufficiently tested.




blackdown - 24 Sep 2006 10:41 - 20286 of 27111

As predicted, massive equity dilution on the way.

maestro - 24 Sep 2006 10:57 - 20287 of 27111

who cares when market cap is so low...this company will be the leader in a multi billion bound market...

Haystack - 24 Sep 2006 11:54 - 20288 of 27111

LOL

Fantasy time on SEO.

aldwickk - 24 Sep 2006 16:25 - 20289 of 27111

The market cap is to high. Share price after placing/rights = 0.40p

maestro - 24 Sep 2006 16:47 - 20290 of 27111

they only need around 3m imho...Times talk rubbish

G D Potts - 24 Sep 2006 17:25 - 20291 of 27111

1.59 p. Wow.

garyble - 24 Sep 2006 20:09 - 20292 of 27111

It was stated that an MMP would cost ~$7m to build, with approx 50:50 split.

So, assuming SEO is still pursuing MMP contracts, top of the head figure would be a minimum funding of 10m for the year, but as Admin costs would most likely equate to ~6m this year, 15m funding IMO is a reasonable estimate to tide them over until MMP/Starpol revenue kicks in.

kimoldfield - 24 Sep 2006 23:06 - 20293 of 27111

SO....how are we all feeling? Confident? Despondent? Don't know?
First of all, a belated birthday greeting to Alan, I'm glad you enjoyed your day and hope you won't take too long to recover from your weekend of excess and debauchery!
It is time for all remaining SEO holders to fasten their seatbelts, myself included! The next few weeks are going to be a rollercoaster ride and at the end of it is a brick wall: work is in hand to ensure that the wall has been removed when we reach the end of the ride, after which it is all greenery and blue sky.....well in theory anyway. It is no longer a secret that the tesing of SEO's products are in full swing; there have been problems, no longer major, and it is apparent that these have been overcome. Although there is a cloak of secrecy over certain 'goings on' the prognosis for full production is good. HOWEVER, we are talking about an entirely new way of packaging and anything can happen. The first aeroplane to be built crashed, look where we are now. The first car to be built did not work very well etc etc, I'm sure you will get my drift. SEO are STILL 'on the cusp' and unless a major deal is done within the next 2 weeks they will need more funding: I do not see this as a problem taking into account the advanced stage that they have now reached. There is a rumour, which is well founded, going round that SEO are about to become a major player in the field of packaging, a fact that has been pushed around as being possible for some time now without much optimism from those outside SEO. Yes, the company can still fail, and if it is to do so it will certainly be within the next month or two: anybody saying otherwise would be foolish. Once they have been accepted as a major influence in the market though, many more companies than ASDA & Wal-Mart will want to shake their hand. Sainsbury use a Dutch company for their packaging but are looking to turn to a British firm a.s.a.p; they are talking to the UK Farming Lobby at the present about the cultivation of crops that can be used for compostable packaging.....we know who has an interest in those! I am not saying that they will definitely use SEO however. Is this a good time to buy SEO shares? Yes it is, if you are prepared to lose money, which you should be anyway if you buy shares is ANY company! Do you like to gamble? Then CERTAINLY put one of your shirts on this company. Averse to high risk? then this is not one for you at this time; return in a few weeks and you will see a different picture, I hope it is a good one! For my part I have doubled my holding lately but it is still a conservative 160k. If all I have been told is correct, and I have absolutely no reason to believe otherwise, then I should be buying in bulk next week - but until I see the RNS that we all want to see, I shall sit tight.
kim

kimoldfield - 24 Sep 2006 23:10 - 20294 of 27111

I forgot to mention, I have been saying for some time that Starpol is the product that will make SEO, not Greenseal necessarily; I still stick with this.
kim

greekman - 25 Sep 2006 08:01 - 20295 of 27111

Kimoldfield,

A very nice post (20293) which just about sums everything up.

Mad Pad - 25 Sep 2006 09:16 - 20296 of 27111

Tony Relaxes,you OK ?,havn't had a mishap with the bike I hope!

maestro - 25 Sep 2006 09:59 - 20297 of 27111

anyone spot the price fluctuation on IG INDEX...at one point the price was saying minus 1.6p...this is a sign shorts have closed and gone long..enjoy!
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