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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

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for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


hangon - 27 Sep 2006 15:35 - 20430 of 27111

The French Connection:
Good bit of research - but maybe someone here can clarify:
I thought it was generally accepted that anything that is Patented had to carry the appropriate Patent number. (But maybe NO-longer - indeed Drink-Cans do not cary such info!)

At one time saying "Patented" was not sufficient; and saying "nothing" highly dangerous for the patent holder.

Without such declaration a patent was in danger of being damaged with the consequence that any infringer can say - "I copied the non-patented goods from -" ....(Tesco in your research, but there could be many others).

If you buy a Drink Can, where are the various Patent numbers for the ring-pull, etc. etc. ? ....I think it used to be so.

On small items (Like a SIM-card) it would be impossible to list all the patents - so maybe there has been a change in the law - However, I recall tetra-pak branding on cartons of Milk....
....anyone involved in Patent Law..?

kevharris - 27 Sep 2006 15:45 - 20431 of 27111

Hi Hangon,

Patience on our part as investors is a pre-requisite where SEO are concerned. Like many on this BB I have undertaken my research and believe it is only a matter of time before the first contract is signed. The company has said so in its previous two RNS releases but there must be legal and regulatory hold ups and probably timing is a key thing as all involved parties will want to maximise any PR advantage.

In the meantime we will all have to bear the forces of the market and those major players within it - who see an opportunity to make money and are probably enjoying doing so at SEO's(And shareholders) expense. I like others have taken a risk with this share (My choice) and based on my research believe that the start line is approaching. SEO currently have a long trail of missed deadlines and no orders - so the markets are holding all the cards.

If a deal is close and it involves Walmart at some point in the process - I cannot believe that Walmart do not know the financial situation of SEO as well as SEO's own directors - I would imagine they would be mentoring SEO - but that is all speculation just now.

Frustration goes on but hey it's great to have a bulletin board where we can all exchange views and fingers crossed have a success story at some point. If we do get a significant contract my own opinion is that future contracts will soon follow and within the packaging industry the spotlight will be even more on SEO and their excellent product range.

Good luck all holders and keep the well researched and interesting posts going.
At present it is a case of who will run out of finger nails first!!

I am out for a run - The Great South looms ever closer.

KH

PATISEAR - 27 Sep 2006 15:51 - 20432 of 27111

hangon
You might look for the 'British Kite Mark.' I believe these have a number and are registered with the 'BSI.' Good hunting.
You might be able to do this on-line.
http://webserv.bsi-global.com/kitemark_licensees/

hewittalan6 - 27 Sep 2006 17:25 - 20433 of 27111

Nothing to do with SEO, but it shows Asda are not all talk!

tweenie - 27 Sep 2006 18:16 - 20434 of 27111

well the last few days havereally been a test of nerves.....
frayed but not severed.
I'm with oily , if directors were selling they'd have to declare it.end of story, no if's or buts. sorry Frency- but you are well off the mark.
Don't know how many millions of shares are still on loan to shorters but again buys outway sells.
The tree may have been well and truly shaken, but the roots are long and hopefully soon those lower fruits will flourish...
alan, hope the asda link is'nt a 3 little piggies fable....... LOL
good luck to all......lets see what the morrow brings.......
No doubt more of the same
;-)

hewittalan6 - 27 Sep 2006 18:21 - 20435 of 27111

to answer that one about who has shares and who is buying and selling, tweenie, you would need level 3. Reading todays posts though, there seem to be one or two who have that advantage over the rest of us.
Alan

kimoldfield - 27 Sep 2006 21:17 - 20436 of 27111

Hangon
Sorry to keep you hanging on for a reply! I agree with your comments and I suspect that Stanelco bought the right to be co-host as they are one of the sponsors of the event. But I also suspect that they were pushed forward by Wal-mart/ASDA. At this stage of their development the company will burn cash faster than my wife can lift it out of my wallet, this is normal for any company involved in new tech which has to be sold by persuasion rather than by reputation. To add to my post 1015/20293, SEO have asked for patience at this time (please do not ask how I know this, suffice to say that I am sure that another poster will know I mean it!); this is not a guarantee that complete success is assured. I am confident that IF Stanelco need more cash, they will get it: I am also confident that UNLESS, and there lies the crux of the matter, UNLESS there is a major, unforseen and to my mind inexplicable disaster, Stanelco will emerge as the big name to contact for packaging. I will still not invest more until I have seen a positive RNS, whether it be for positive fundraising or a signed contract. As I write this, it may already be taking place..................or not! What is certain is that SEO have products for very many of the names at the Conference, can they sell them?
kim

hewittalan6 - 27 Sep 2006 21:34 - 20437 of 27111

Mail for you, Kim

kimoldfield - 27 Sep 2006 22:11 - 20438 of 27111

Reply sent Alan!

maestro - 28 Sep 2006 01:28 - 20439 of 27111

the new 'Tetrapak' will be announced before the weekend....enjoy!

pinnacle - 28 Sep 2006 07:57 - 20440 of 27111

Maestro,

Interesting comment and I hope true - but how can you be so certain?

If you can't comment publicly I am Happy for you to contact me direct.

hewittalan6 - 28 Sep 2006 08:02 - 20441 of 27111

Further to the question about patenting.
The process for Greensealing is patented, as is the product Starpol.
There is no requirement for a patent mark on the packs, as it is the process to produce them that is covered, not the pack itself. With Starpol, it is the "recipe" that is patented, not the product. One could hardly claim a patent for mushrooms in a clear plastic container, unless the container was novel in its application, use or design, and then one would have to show that it was not just an adaptation of existing, non-patented usage.
No danger, therefore in not having the patent plastered all over the place.
Alan

greekman - 28 Sep 2006 08:37 - 20442 of 27111

With a spread of 17.7% the day traders are not being tempted. (Don't blame them).
Could be a strange day with a current depth of 7 to 8 buy/sell orders, although this will now doubt expand.

pinnacle - 28 Sep 2006 09:21 - 20443 of 27111

Not one to give up!

Maestro, why so sure of your previous comment?

hewittalan6 - 28 Sep 2006 09:38 - 20444 of 27111

He's not.
its a combination of ramp and guess.
I wish it were true.

pinnacle - 28 Sep 2006 09:42 - 20445 of 27111

Sadly, it looks like you are right.

However, things are very, very quiet this morning.

It is as if something is about to happen!

Good or bad who knows.

tweenie - 28 Sep 2006 09:57 - 20446 of 27111

I drove a meastro once. The most unlreliable, rusty P.O.S it's ever been my misfortune to come accross.
This that probably applies to this punter as well.

pinnacle - 28 Sep 2006 10:00 - 20447 of 27111

That's a bit harsh!!

He may know something - benefit of the doubt is called for I think.

Things are strange today as mentioned previously.

tweenie - 28 Sep 2006 10:07 - 20448 of 27111

Aplogies Pinnacle.
But sick of people ramping SEO - thats what led to this problem in the first place.
However , I do believe that a detailed map showing route from Measto's AR@E to his ELBOW would still result in several u-turns and a request for more directions.

glad to see SEO is back to normal , inthat a sell of a few hundred K of shares results in a dramatic fall in SP , but buys of millions result in 0.
Ho-hum. Better do some real work.

greekman - 28 Sep 2006 10:09 - 20449 of 27111

Don't usually predict, but looking at the order book it is heading (if no news) for a very quiet day.
First time for a while that the mms have been on the bid with them taking the first 4 orders, the 5th being the only none mm order on the book. There are no mms on the ask side. No one appears to be doing much.
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