Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

dream in most cases it is down to the racist card .

dream i had a big hop but went private in the nuffield excellent .
cost me over 42k .
2005

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You never have much to say on the positive side for the country, so why do you stay here ?

I have private insurance Tanker.

The scandal came to light because of an investigation by the Healthcare Commission into the operation of Stafford Hospital in Stafford, England. The commission was first alerted by the "apparently high mortality rates in patients admitted as emergencies".[1] When the Mid Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust, which is responsible for running the hospital, failed to provide what the commission considered an adequate explanation, a full-scale investigation was carried out between March and October 2008.[1] Released in March 2009, the commission's report severely criticized the Foundation Trust's management and detailed the appalling conditions and inadequacies at the hospital. Many press reports suggested that because of the substandard care between 400 and 1200 more patients died between 2005 and 2008 than would be expected for the type of hospital,[2][3] though in fact such ‘excess’ death statistics did not appear in the final Healthcare Commission report.[4]

As a result, the trust's chief executive, Martin Yeates, was suspended (with full pay), while its chairman, Toni Brisby, resigned.[3] Both Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Health Secretary Alan Johnson apologized to those who suffered at the hospital.[3][5] Also in response to the scandal, the mortality rates of all National Health Service hospitals have been made accessible on a website.[6]

In March 2009 it was revealed that executives who had run the NHS trust at the time actually received promotions within the health service. Most notably Cynthia Bower, who was from 2006 chief executive of the trust's parent body, NHS West Midlands, was recruited to run the Care Quality Commission quango.[7]

On 21 July 2009, the Secretary of State for Health, Andrew Burnham, announced a further independent inquiry into care provided by Mid Staffordshire Foundation Trust. The generally critical inquiry report was published on 24 February 2010. The report made 18 local and national recommendations, including that the regulator, Monitor, de-authorise the Foundation Trust.[8]

Compensation payments averaging £11,000 were paid to some of the families involved.[9]

In February 2010, Burnham agreed to a further independent inquiry of the commissioning, supervisory and regulatory bodies for Foundation Trusts.[8]

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CYNIC . just for you

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dream i am lucky i have money so can have what i want .
but the poor can not they are treated very badly
and looking back to the war they died invane died for nothing

T can even afford a bespoke soap-box made from finest english oak

I cannot understand why you do not have health insurance from what you state (you may have ) the premiums would be a fraction of the £40+ grand you have spent out.

I think a good percentage of investors have money here, but dont have to keep posting they do.

Reminds me of the story of a patient being sent to hospital with a note,to have a malignancy cut out.

The note read;- "please keep the patient and send the malignancy back home".

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i think i am right in saying that private health insurance actually subsidises NHS in some way

We have a private hospital near by (Sawbridgeworth) and they in lull times take in NHS patients.

Which I have been told keeps my costs down.

Cynic,

Depends.

The majority of medical staff in PHI are trained in the NHS at expense to the public.

The majority of the their medical school studies were/are paid for or subsidised by the public purse.

Complex ongoing medical care is often renegaded on by PHI "protection" and returned to "public care".

Many with ongoing medical conditions needing drugs, have them provided by the NHS at considerable costs.

Nothing is ever simple!

And private care subsidises the NHS by taking the strain off the NHS. It also allows doctors to earn a bit more, which may stop them going abroad.

dream did look at insurance years ago and found out that the older you get the more it goes up
and over 70 it is to much for most and stop paying .
better to invest your cash and see it grow till you need to use it
that was my thinking .

Fred - i have a feeling your post would not entirely stand up to close scrutiny ..... in particular, "the majority of the their medical school studies were/are paid for or subsidised by the public purse" ...... most assuredly no more so than applies to anyone who goes/went to university for any course - even that valuable degree in media studies at thames university!

this is an interesting bit too - "many with ongoing medical conditions needing drugs, have them provided by the NHS at considerable costs" ..... perhaps so, but if i have been putting money into the system, why should i not benefit just as with a pension? ..... on the other hand, if one opts out of the state education system, then one has contributed for zero return - or at least in a direct sense