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RTD - Why? (RTD)     

Nitefly - 15 Sep 2003 10:55

Why are we again at 10.5p bid?

It doesn't add up...

Good Results + Strong buying pre results + Christmas online buying soon = Price drop

Then again some companies that have debt for equity hanging in the balance, poor results and bankruptcy around the corner and they go up!

Why sell now at a loss?

Wont that be a kick in the teeth when we see 13.5p 14p again!

Best of luck all.

pachandl - 28 Jan 2005 16:04 - 2054 of 2406

Fair comment Fund but I do need to keep repeating the point that you cannot compare the 2 companies because of RTD's petrol business (which will not maintain the same growth rate as its cnp business).

Fundamentalist - 28 Jan 2005 16:10 - 2055 of 2406

Pach

agreed to a certain extent, though in no way is the fraud part of the business rated as highly as cybs.

that said, the fuel card business is a nice cash cow to underpin the fraud business and is still growing itself. be interesting a year or two down the line whether there would be a consideration to selling the fuel card business or demerging it

Fred1new - 28 Jan 2005 16:22 - 2056 of 2406

Thanks for the analysis and updates Pach and Fundy. Still holding. Day charts volumes and Price increase my expectations of better things to come.

Douggie - 28 Jan 2005 18:47 - 2057 of 2406

thanks for the informed coments folks you answer the questions I couldn't think of to ask, good to be in your company :o) D.

overgrowth - 28 Jan 2005 22:29 - 2058 of 2406

Good to see RTD slowly heading in the right direction - the slower the better in my book because it suggests longer term holders buying in based on obvious future potential rather than 80% traders looking for massive gains by going long before and short after results. My guess is 43p just before results, a drop to 34p after results (very briefly) and 60p by the end of 2005.

Goldman Sachs have "cast in stone" support levels and by the looks of things there are other small cap. funds getting in on the action too which will give further support should there be a spell of mass profit taking after results.

I agree with the rest of you guys - the fuel card business provides the best possible springboard for growing the CNP business short term. Loads more people got "on-line" after Christmas who would a couple of years ago have never dreamed of buying a computer. I've heard reports of a massive upturn in internet buying just in the first weeks of this year - all bodes very favourably for the future.

Fundamentalist - 28 Jan 2005 22:33 - 2059 of 2406

evening og

see you are predicting a short term dip after results - wouldnt be too much of a surprise after last year - dont think it will be as severe as you suggest - will depend how in excess of fcasts results are

ps i see my posts are appearing everywhere these days lol


overgrowth - 28 Jan 2005 22:42 - 2060 of 2406

Fundy, After a long day - I couldn't force myself to wade through the Cyber blurb to extract the salient bits, but after reading your summary it couldn't go unmissed - many thanks.

I'm looking at the worst possible scenario (which still looks pretty good to me!). I think anyone looking to short RTD after results may be in for a bumpy ride - Many will try by simply looking at the chart, but the good news is that they all have buy back at some point and that'll set the sp soaring up again!

Fundamentalist - 28 Jan 2005 22:47 - 2061 of 2406

OG

no probs - one of my friends emailed me and asked if i also posted as overgrowth lol!!!!!

i think the risk reward is not in place for the shorters this year - the fundamentals will be too strong - theyll probably still try mind

the more i look at this share the less i worry about short term fluctuations - i just try and picture what the results will be like in 2 yrs time

overgrowth - 28 Jan 2005 22:55 - 2062 of 2406

Me too!

boxerdog - 29 Jan 2005 17:59 - 2063 of 2406

Hi, have been trading R/D.For best part of a decade.They traded in the nineties as card clear any one recall this? R/D and universe Gp.came out of CC.and they w
ent their own merry ways.
Never before has the future looked so rosy for R/D and its long suffering investors.
The forth comming results will be mega positive resulting in a surge in its price short term,even better medium to long.
Take the advice of a hold hand dip your bread,top up now i intend to!

Fred1new - 31 Jan 2005 17:09 - 2064 of 2406


Come on Douggie give us a smile. Nice ballance of Buys -Sells. Long may it last
(8-)

Douggie - 31 Jan 2005 18:01 - 2065 of 2406

Hi Fred :o)))

Fred1new - 03 Feb 2005 15:49 - 2066 of 2406

Isn't it quiet. I am beginning to drop in here when I want a rest. Is it ow enought to top up again ?

pachandl - 03 Feb 2005 16:13 - 2067 of 2406

No Fred - please go back to bed and continue with your rest (I think Douggie did not even manage to wake up this morning so you are one up on him). Perhaps worth waiting for stronger evidence of T trading before committing further funds. Nice to hear from you (or anybody for that matter) - best of luck with your other shares. Yawn .........zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

1982roy - 03 Feb 2005 16:20 - 2068 of 2406

we have all gone on holiday with douggie,back soon at 40-45 (hopefully)

Fred1new - 03 Feb 2005 17:19 - 2069 of 2406

I will put the kettle on, but aren't BPRG and SEO doing well. Don't really understand why generaly when the market moves down my shares seem to go up more rapidly. Not complaining just wishing I understood why.

Douggie - 04 Feb 2005 10:53 - 2070 of 2406

Hi all I keep looking in but there isn't anything to say at the moment is there,everything XXXXd that there will be a nice big buy spree pre results, I can't buy anymore fully commited from long ago. ;o\

pachandl - 04 Feb 2005 11:33 - 2071 of 2406

I must admit that I am hoping for a clear consolidation in the sp over the next few days and then a slow rise up to results day. Whether this will re-test 37p resistance is anybody's guess.

Fred1new - 04 Feb 2005 14:13 - 2072 of 2406

I have been re-evaluating the strategy with this share after perusing the interim results and report 10/9/04 and flicking through the various news releases.
I was running with a reasonable stop loss. But have decided that for the time this is unnecessary and also fearful even if the results are good the traders will flog and wait hopefully to buy again later. I think there have been a number of companies written down on what normally would be considered good results.

I think the timing of short term selling and re-buying will be to clever for me on this share and running to close a stop loss it may possibly force me into that situation.

Looking at the maps there would appear to be bit of resistance at about 40 p and then 50p.

This share has a long way to go and I feel I will let it run, unless the results are catastrophic

I must admit this share over the years has rewarded me with 40K realised profit and I think will reward me even more in the future.

I will try and shut up until the results, unless, I am forced to tease Douggie, who hasnt left the price screen for the last 10 days.

Back to worry about something else, like how to cook a cut of veal bought in France.

Good luck every body.


8-)

pachandl - 04 Feb 2005 16:13 - 2073 of 2406

Fred - seems a reasonable strategy. For my part I have decided to hold for the moment but will re-evaluate the position 48hrs before results. I may sell if a spike develops - otherwise I will hold for the year.
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