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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

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snurkle1 - 21 Jun 2013 18:40 - 207 of 1034

Bill Holter's latest.......it's a good 'n

http://blog.milesfranklin.com/interest-rates-have-risen-50

squirrel888 - 21 Jun 2013 21:42 - 208 of 1034

Omce - my favourites are maples as they are much more shiny than other coins but I have Brits too & I don't mind paying vat. My purchases are all legal & I keep a log. I've got gold too with certificates.

I was left coins by my grandad & been given alot of jewellery over the years - I'm a size 10 blonde beauty - what can I say. Got diamonds too. One whopper.

I keep in touch with a local coin dealer who has a huge safe & he keeps Krugs. He deals in stamps too - really nice guy - old school. The thought of the empire & fiat going t&ts up scares him but all his kids are highly educated & he'd hate to think they'd ever blame him for system failure. Hence the well stocked safe I guess.

He's been in business 40 years.

I've got huge green eyes btw - if you met me you'd be speechless - guaranteed!

squirrel888 - 21 Jun 2013 21:56 - 209 of 1034

Mml - going to wait and see on that one. I prefer to hold physical gold. Silver is more useful & I think in terms of value pro rata it will outdo gold. Agq & coins are my hedge/drug of choice. Asset rich.



omce36 - 21 Jun 2013 22:32 - 210 of 1034

I'm a size 10 blonde beauty - what can I say. I've got huge green eyes btw - if you met me you'd be speechless -

Oh my!

Not a fan of Brits - prefer Maples,Libs and Harmonics. Is there any difference, other than silver content for Brits?

I hate paying VAT - I've already paid tax at least once before I buy Silver - why should I be taxed again other than to underwrite some lazy git on welfare popping out numerous kids who think's it is his/her right to live free off other people's hard work....

Prefer physical anything to mining shares frankly.Given how miners have underperformed the underlying. Bought MML too soon - averaged down a couple of times.Thinking of doing so again.Sub 100p they look tasty.

gazkaz - 21 Jun 2013 23:18 - 211 of 1034

Snurkle - as the east also thinks and appreciates - gift prices

The central banks also appreciate it too - as much as they can get

Andrew Maguire
“Just off wholesaler calls. Most are too busy to talk at this time, but today (Thursday) will be ...
- the largest volume day this year and ...possibly 2 years.

Central bank purchases
- are almost certainly.... far in excess of paper sales.
- We are so close to the marginal cost of production that my contacts are saying the gates are wide open here .....to purchase ...all physical... that is available

These were immense amounts of...... paper gold hitting the market,
- yet there is .....absolutely zero physical gold..... for sale
- and nothing... but buy orders... in the wholesale market.

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2013/6/21_Maguire_-_TAKE A HINT- back up the truck.html

and - we are getting reports of .....extremely large allocations of gold,
- but also..... far larger direct producer deals ....being struck ...outside the paper markets.

MaxK - 22 Jun 2013 00:09 - 212 of 1034

I'm a size 10 blonde beauty - what can I say. I've got huge green eyes btw - if you met me you'd be speechless -


LOL !

gazkaz - 22 Jun 2013 01:48 - 213 of 1034

MaxK - amazing - you and squirrell must have been twins - separated at birth perhaps :o)

squirrel888 - 22 Jun 2013 06:19 - 214 of 1034

Gaz - ever had that stomach punched feeling that something terrible is about to happen. I got that last night - really bad feeling. Can't shake it off. Must be my eyes seeing into something but hundreds of candles lit & all set on different coloured carpets. Gave me such a bad feeling it woke me up.

Max - you stop that copying now. Plagarism.

snurkle1 - 22 Jun 2013 06:24 - 215 of 1034

I think Squirrel has finally got hold of that first alcoholic drink since arriving in the Middle East a few months ago :-)

Gaz, Funnily enough I was just reading an Alistair Mcl. piece (see below). As for backing up the truck......you darn right!! Even my colleagues at work are now buyers. We're pooling together to save on delivery charges as they can be real stingers and it gives the guys who can only afford 1 or 2 coins a chance to get in too.

by Alasdair Macleod - Head of Research

weekly Market Roundup
First it was Abenomics, then Ben Bernanke dithering about tapering, followed by crisis-rates in Chinese wholesale money markets. It has been quite a week capping quite a month. Gold and silver got badly hit, which tells us that so far investors think this is no more than overbought equity and bond markets unwinding. As long as no one in western capital markets is seriously considering systemic risk, they are unlikely to flock to gold or silver.

Systemic risk should not be treated lightly. There are two worries for Mr Bernanke that explain his indecisiveness: firstly, falling equity prices undermine consumer and business confidence (at least in the central bankers’ playbook); and secondly rising interest rates along the yield curve are bad for bank solvency.

This latter point needs more explanation. During the Libor scandal, it became apparent that a small interest rate fall boosted derivative values significantly. Citigroup helped us quantify the effect when in 2009 it reported that a 1% fall in interest rates would enhance its derivative values by nearly $2bn a quarter. Citigroup is one of the smaller players in the derivatives market, with only $14.2 trillion of interest rate swaps at the time. This explains why zero interest rates were a necessary component of the rescue package at the time of the Lehman failure.

According to the Bank for International Settlements, last December there were $370 trillion of interest rate swaps. Using the Citigroup numbers as a guide, a 1% rise in interest rates would cost the banking system over $200bn in a year. Bear in mind that this cost is concentrated in a few too-bid-to-fail banks, and this is only part of the total derivative market, which amounted to $633 trillion. The reality of tapering is that the Fed is going to have to tell Congress that their interest bill is going to rise, so they better cut their spending, and that he is going to have to find an extra one or two trillion to give to the banks.

Instead, the reality is there is no going back from QE, and current instability in financial markets is probably only the beginning of an acknowledgement of this dilemma. The trade-off is between escalating systemic risk and being locked into further monetary inflation, either of which justifies protection by owning precious metals.

Less noticed is the havoc wrought in emerging market currencies. The Indian rupee has fallen 8% against the US dollar in the last month, the Turkish lira by 6.5%, and the Brazilian real by nearly 11%. Perhaps it is the cost of living in the latter two that is driving civil protests.

The week ahead:
Monday will be anticipated with trepidation: will equities continue to accelerate their slide, or will complacency return?

It will be a quiet week ahead for announcements, but for a raft of Japanese statistics overnight on Thursday/Friday.

Monday: UK Nationwide House Prices.

Tuesday: UK BBA Mortgage Approvals. US Durable Goods Orders, S&P Case-Shiller Home Price Index, New Home Sales, Consumer Confidence Index.

Wednesday: UK CBI Distributive Trades. US Core PCE Price Index (final) GDP Annualised (final).

Thursday: eurozone M3 Money Supply, Business Climate Index, Consumer Sentiment, Economic Sentiment, Industrial Sentiment. US Core PCE Price Index, Initial Claims, Personal Income, Personal Spending, Pending Home Sales. Japan CPI, Real Household Spending, Unemployment, Industrial Production, Retail Sales.

Friday: Japan Construction Orders, Housing Starts. UK Index of Services. US Chicago PMI.

snurkle1 - 22 Jun 2013 06:30 - 216 of 1034

I have to admit Squirrel, I have a similar feeling. It's almost waiting and anticipating the next page in the agenda of TPTB.
The world is rocking from east to west, although the US and northern Europe are still pretty much asleep.
Frightening thought what could happen if we finally woke up. I'm ready for it though as it's time for us to take back control of our lives.

squirrel888 - 22 Jun 2013 06:33 - 217 of 1034

Morning snurks - no not drink but it was a full moon last night & the summer solstice. Honestly - very vivid dream.

Interesting post btw. Met someone here who says invest in Turkey!

squirrel888 - 22 Jun 2013 06:47 - 218 of 1034

Snurks - very strong feeling to get home. I don't know why yet. Father-in-law had a wobble - nothing serious but its a factor for us to not be here too long.

This dream felt so powerful. I had a friend next to me helping me look for something then we came upon this site full of lit candles. The last time I had something like that I was home within a year & then the 2008 crash happened soon after.

I know we're on a time limit here. It might end up being a year.

Made new friends so its not that I'm feeling lonely.

It's something big coming. Feels none man made. A divine event. But when it happens I won't be alone.

I was in the 2004 Tsunamis. It feels big like that. Not sure.

snurkle1 - 22 Jun 2013 16:22 - 219 of 1034

Sounds ominous.

I hope you make it back home in time

snurkle1 - 22 Jun 2013 16:46 - 220 of 1034

Here's a piece of Ed Steer's daily catching up on yesterdays trading pm's


It was another busy day at the store on Friday...and like it has always been, silver sales were great, but gold sales were astonishing once again.

Well, my guess that there wouldn't be much in yesterday's Commitment of Traders Report turned out to be only half right. There were no changes worth noting in silver...but gold was a horse of a different colour.

In gold, the Commercial net short position declined by a very chunky 14,207 contracts, or 1.42 million ounces. The Commercial net short position is now down to only 4.41 million ounces...a level not seen, according to reader E.W.F..."since February 8, 2005." He also noted that the gold 'raptors'..."hold their biggest net long position since February 20, 2001."

The Big 4 short contract holders [which, of course, no longer includes JPMorgan Chase] are short 10.22 million troy ounces of gold which, on a 'net' basis, represents 31.9% of the entire Comex futures market in gold...once the market-neutral spread trades are subtracted from the total open interest.

The '5 through 8' short holders in gold are short an additional 4.60 million troy ounces of gold on a 'net' basis. That represents another 14.4 percentage points of the total Comex futures market on the short side.

So the 'Big 8' in total are short 46.3% of the entire Comex futures market in gold on a net basis...and are short 236% of the Commercial net short position, which is preposterous.

But to put things in perspective for gold, the 'Big 8' short holders in silver are short 252.5 million ounces of the stuff...and the Commercial net short position is only 29.8 million ounces...so that puts their combined short position at 1,080% of the Commercial net short position.

The 236 percent in gold...and the 1,080 percent in silver...are almost impossible to believe...but there they are...and will be even more over the moon in both metals as the Commercial net short positions in both shrinks to zero, which they're probably close to right now.

After the events of Wednesday and Thursday, it's a good bet that JPMorgan Chase is out of its silver short position...and if not out, then close enough that what remains of it no longer matters, as they are covered in other markets...particularly in gold...which they have an even bigger long position in now than they did at the Tuesday cut-off for yesterday's COT Report.

We'll only see these numbers IF the precious metal prices remain flat through the close of Comex trading on Tuesday, the cut-off for the COT Report on Friday, June 28th...and I certainly wouldn't bet the ranch on that.

gazkaz - 22 Jun 2013 23:26 - 221 of 1034

Snurkle - some good info there thanks

Gridlock over the luxembourg discussions, I posted earlier - as they discuss how much of investors money - can be bailed in - they seem happy with excluding about 2.5% of total liabilities
- in my speak that's ...97.5% - of shareholder, bondholder, saver/investor funds
- that - CAN BE - bailed in.

The current deadlock in negotiations seems over
- whether it is a - FIXED RIGID plan - or nations get a tidgy widgy bit - of flexibility

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/10136307/EU-bank-bail-out-talks-deadlocked-over-SMALL PRINT of investor rip off.html

And Joe Public - snoozes on

It's like reality has been suspended on ...- many many - counts
- and like the Titanic (or more accuratlely - it's sister ship - the Olympic)
- "The Band Just Plays On"

gazkaz - 22 Jun 2013 23:46 - 222 of 1034

Talking of suspending reality - it seems rudimentary maths
- and common sense
- has been suspended too

I like this guy - he's australian - no nonsense or.. beating about the bush
(excuse pun - and/or unless you have a boomerang with you)

http://www.youtube.com/Grant Williams---Wakey-Wakey---do the MATH

Like the Tom Cruise Film "Cocktails" - Grant Wlliams is very much in the "Coughlins Laws" style...e.g

"if it makes no sense, ....it is nonsense"

A Few Examples

Problem 1:
If the global economy is stalling, Europe is in recession, China is slowing and growth is seemingly impossible to generate,
- what are equity markets doing at .....all-time highs?




Problem 2:
If Chinese manufacturing has stalled, demand for raw materials is slumping, imports and exports are declining, and Chinese power consumption is falling,
- how is China's GDP growing.... at 7.7%




Problem 3
Well lets just look at...France




Couple of his classics as nightcaps

Problem 4: If honesty is the best policy,
- then is dishonest...... the second best policy?

Problem 5: If there were no sponges living in the oceans,
- would the oceans be deeper?

I won't spoil the rest of the great content (& style)

Enjoy !



gazkaz - 23 Jun 2013 00:54 - 223 of 1034

Squirrell
Re the gut sense of....
- Personally i think it's just - when
- And in the famous line in the film GhostBusters....."what form the Destroyer will take"
(Although I have pretty much discounted "The Puff Pastry Man")

The toally "unforseen" ..financial Black swans ...are already in final planning stages
(Luxembourg - 97.5 % bail ins - plus progress report from FSB to G8 on progress of Global Cross Border - Template - re Too Big To Fails Going Down etc).

They don't want a mass wake up of snoozers - so probably - "softly softly (taps with ...a rather large 'ammer)... catchy monkey" method... will probably continue.

EG - Iceland takedown didn't quite go to plan (lessons learned ...an all)
- but Ireland got a full blitzing, Greece went well, Cyprus...even better and so on.

The Ducks are all being lined up in the M/East - for a proxy session out there.

Ultimately the well funded armed2teeth state - promised by TPTB in WWI for bringing the yanks in, and fulfilled in round II - is actually Khazars - not the chosen lot.

Hence - if needed - in a grand finale
- sacrificeable against the other lot - who can be hot headed and still wander about with automatic hardware
- tribal - and therefore a threat, if they ever got the nouse to spot the - real bad guys.

Natural events ??
- Well they built all those friggin great bunkers (under the auspices of...the cold war) for a reason.
- The land of the wonderful knife - with even a gadget for getting boy scouts out of horses hooves - has enough bunkers for....it's whole popuation
- Russia had a deadline for an extra 5,000 bunkers by 2013
(and all those extras - were just....around Moscow)
- Vaccine Bill G - is stashing art, rare photos & negatives in a room in... a nice - little very deep number.
- The (privately owned) Norway underground "seed vault" is being stocked with all the seeds they can cram in there (strangely enough all - non GMO :o)

So answers on a postcard re....... that (and...I've kept it short)....little lot.

Sundry
Comet ISON is on it's way thro the inner solar system - handy they have their little trundler up there as it makes a close pass by mars (Oct-ish if I remember correctly)
- most spectacular comet since "the great comet" of 18..whenever
- depending on what you read
- as bright as a full moon (and some say up to x times brighter)
- a tail that will stretch between a 1/4 and... half way accross the night sky
- possibly even visible in daylight
- heading thro.. here abouts.. late autumn(ish)
- then onwards round the sun (at which time coud break up and give us ...somewhat fun meteor showers of debris)
- if not - then back on out past - these 'ere part in early 2014 for - another show.

Bright and spectacular with a stonkin great tail of....? & allegedly just a large - dirty snowball
(losing that length of tails worth of...ice..one might have thought.. at that rate it might have...run out of icy bits by now...but hey ho)

Millions of miles away of couse so...should just be a pretty light show...for a few ..months.
(all just from memory)

(Update - As above recollection - this is a ...non - foil hat - version - in link :o)

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/space/stories/christmas-miracle-comet-could-be-as-bright-as-the-full-moon

So taking my last 3 posts together - as I said I think it's just when &.....in what form.

In the meantime - all reality, maths, economics & common sense suspended.
Kick all those cans down the road and....
- give the sheeple the mushroom treatment (keep 'em in the dark and just keeping feeding them the sh!te).


Well as it's a big picture late night musing I think that's enough so
- I'll cut things short at that...and have an hours wanderings of ..more of the big picture stuff, before bed.



squirrel888 - 23 Jun 2013 06:48 - 224 of 1034

Gaz - thanks for that. I've watched 2012 twice. I don't have a billion dollar ticket for the Ark :-(

I've always viewed the world as oval & thought I'd never want to see the poles.

Middle East is going through vast changes driven by the aspirations to become middle class. It will all be lovely when complete.......

As for getting home - I'm sure we'll be back & then wondering if we stayed here long enough as money shrinks fast when you stop earning it.

The UK financial system houses many wealthy folk so I'd be surprised to see a grab on savers/depositorsala Cyprus style. Besides that was more about our Russian enemies than anything else. Silly cypriots for allowing it in the first place.

Cash in a metal box will be safe from turmites but won't be worth as much each time you go to it to get the weekly shopping spends.

To sell a silver coin once a week might be the only inflation hedge to get the food in.

Clearly if banks are to further increase their capital then they can only do that by offering sweeter interest rates. Which will of course bring their requirements in line with last weeks report.

Silver - The physical price paid for the hard stuff has already disconnected from the paper pos.

Perhaps I should get a chart up showing how much silver ounces are from dealers?

Gold - genuine question this - how much has Assad got & who will soak it up?

snurkle1 - 23 Jun 2013 07:00 - 225 of 1034

Some good stuff there Gaz!!

Memories of Hale Bopp springs to mind. It was an amazing sight on a clear night. He had a beautiful long tingly tail. He seemed to be around for quite some time.

At that time I used to live on top of a hill so could see for miles and boy did he brighten up my evenings

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