bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
explosive
- 05 Oct 2006 19:22
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Fair play Geof, don't take any posts to heart, there are alot of good posters here but also the manipulative idiots and spin doctors that do the rounds on all free BBs. Its all too easy to invent a name and post whatever you like true or false and when things start going wrong the finger gets pointed.
WOODIE
- 05 Oct 2006 19:22
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geoffho it was nice of you to take the time to post here,i agree with about the company but as i stated earlier i think it was offence the wording used in the article" an emergency fundraising will soon take place,but surely no one will be dumb enough to bail them out.the only direction seo is moving downward" calling fellow investors dumb, only my view, but others might have found it funny.
oblomov
- 05 Oct 2006 19:43
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All very interesting GeoffHo, but as most of us have not seen the article I dont quite see the point of the post unless it is to incite the shareholders to 'get shot of the management'.
Your post doesn't strike me as a very professional act from what, presumably, is considered to be a reputable magazine.
I understand that a week ago your magazine were tipping SEO as 'a punt'. If so, your latest stance and opinion would seem extreme given that the management haven't changed in the past week.
hewittalan6
- 05 Oct 2006 19:48
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If it is Geoff Ho.
tweenie
- 05 Oct 2006 19:54
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WTF?
calling anyone 'DUMB' never goes down well.
Having your mag recommend it one minute and short it the next is a bit RICH.
As for not dealing in shares 'yourself' I'm sure you don't. would'nt wish to question your integrity. Does it also exclude persons in your immediate family/friend/bloke down st/partner etc. Have worked long enough in business to know that clauses only protect the owner and don't stop staff mis-behaving.
If posts hurt your feelings, well get over it.
and lets hope everyone sells before the company goes bust, or else shorting , won't pay.
:-))))
oblomov
- 05 Oct 2006 20:01
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Unlikely it is, I should think, Alan.
The comments on SEO's management are defamatory. A magazine representitive stating on a BB read by a large number of large shareholders that the company is 'a gonner' unless they get rid of the management and that 'the management are either incompetent or much, much worse' - sounds libelous to me unless he can prove they're incompetent and not just unlucky. The 'much, much worse' implies someting illegal to me.
I put the post down to yet another nutter, pretending to be Geoff Ho. If it really is him, then I think MAM should pass this on to SEO for their lawyers to look at!
hewittalan6
- 05 Oct 2006 20:05
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My thoughts, Oblo.
A journalist who could not take criticism of his opinions would last about half a day.
Alan
zscrooge
- 05 Oct 2006 20:12
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stockdog - 05 Oct 2006 19:15 - 20886 of 20893
So Geoff, are you saying you don't believe the RNS reported share placing at 0.8p??
Remember what followed placings at 21p and 8p?
aldwickk
- 05 Oct 2006 20:38
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'the management are either incompetent or much, much worse' - sounds libelous to me unless he can prove they're incompetent .
How much more proof do you need ?
pisces
- 05 Oct 2006 20:45
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Before i continue i have no agenda against or for stanelco and really feel for those that have lost money of which i am sure there are many. I havn`t been trading for very long,less than 2 years but have to agree with cynic on this one.Having bailed out at 13p mainly due to Andy Smiths comments at the time, it has been downhill ever since.Nobody on this thread can argue with the charts,i cannot remember a share consistantly falling like this since i started trading .A lot of people on this thread have talked a load of bollocks over the past 6 months but i still feel for the genuine posters .I stated a couple of weeks ago that if a genuine contract had been signed or even near to completion you guys would be the last to know but where are all the massive buys,sorry guys but there just isn`t any and until something positive happens only a fool would touch these. Good luck anyway.
aldwickk
- 05 Oct 2006 21:02
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I have emailed MoneyAM to confirm if it is Geoff Hoe of Share Mag who posted.
garyble
- 05 Oct 2006 21:40
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Can't believe it has almost been a year since we were speculating about the demise etc of GS and giving SEO just one more chance to come good!
It would be nice to hear about the progress on the ASDA salad packing machines, and the Tray-lidders.
bosley
- 05 Oct 2006 21:45
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thankyou geoff for taking the time to respond. i think it's obvious quite a few don't read shares mag. if they did then they would know each individual writer expresses his/her opinion in their articles and , being human, the opinions can differ. one writer may think seo is worth a punt, other writers think it's a dog. no different to any bb really so why all the fuss from everyone?
andysmith
- 05 Oct 2006 21:55
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pisces, glad to see that you either protected some profits or limited any losses. When I made my comments they were based solely on slow progress and lack of take-up by the packers. Retailers have some powers but at the end of the day they cannot force packers to sign up to new technology without proven benefits. My other concern at the time was that SEO seemed to have too many fingers in too many pies and with little real representation in the packaging world & a high cashburn with little return then the longer the delays the less believable the investment community would find the endless RNS's of "close to deals and more trials". Hindsight is wonderful, (I'd have sold at 30p and not 21p for a start) and SEO will consider that they would have been better proving the technology commercially before setting what has turned out to be ridiculous expectations and RNS's about potential deals with Walmart and squads of engineers all ready to Greenseal everything in sight did not help. What a rollercoaster ride, so many people were lucky enough to make a lot of money on the way up and those brave enough to short on the way back down but many investors choosing to ignore the situation have lost alot of money. I think that the management have a lot of explaining to do about their RNS's and notes to brokers but remember Howard White is likely to lose a lot of money as well if they go bust. They might survive but it will be a long way back if they do and they will need a change of management to take their technologies forward and more importantly because nobody believes a word anymore, even the most avid of pro-SEO supporters still occupying this thread appear to be utterly brassed off. The potential was there and still is with Starpol but what a fuck up. Best of Luck to anyone still holding these,
bosley
- 05 Oct 2006 22:08
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also in shares mag today is an article titled, " how to stage a shareholder revolt". it might be worth knowing this for future reference.
bhunt1910
- 05 Oct 2006 22:48
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Hi Bosley - I thought it was talking specifically about SEO - I know it did not mention the company by name - but it might as well have !!
bosley
- 05 Oct 2006 23:43
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hiya baza. funnily enough i was thinking the same thing ... almost as if they were preparing the ground so that they could be the investor's champion yet again ;) good article though and it shows that the pi can make the board sit up and listen if it's done correctly.
GeoffHo
- 06 Oct 2006 01:49
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Woodie - I'm inclined to agree with you. Calling people dumb was not in the best taste, but given how I think a team of drunken penguins could have run this company better than its existing management, I think giving said humans more money to burn would be rather silly.
About the line about management being either incompetent or much, much worse, perhaps I should have said that I think they are about as bright as a solar powered torch in a cave.
For the record folks, I have no feelings to hurt - when you've followed Man Utd for 23 years and endured the horror of watching the likes of Clayton Blackmore in the red shirt, criticism is like water off a duck's back. I am just genuinely perplexed as to why so many people believe in this company and take offence at the slightest criticism.
PS: If the shares recover and the company actually starts to turn promises into reality I'll eat my collection of every major league baseball team caps. Somehow I just can't see myself getting THAT much fibre in my diet.
greekman
- 06 Oct 2006 07:28
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Oblomov, Aldwickk.
Like you I take the post from Geoff Hoe! with a large pinch of salt.
Eagerly awaiting a reply from the E Mail sent to MAM by Aldwickk.
I am sure Geoff would agree, that we should take no one at face value until we get to know their agenda (if they have one) through reading their history of posts.
It is only then that that pinch of salt gets a lot smaller.
bhunt1910
- 06 Oct 2006 07:32
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Ah well - no news is not good news in my book.
We should have seen an rns this morning (in my view) to announce the money deal and new contracts. this wait will just add more uncertainty