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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

hilary - 01 Feb 2013 18:08 - 20897 of 81564

Incidentally, it's also wrong to assume that Oxford is full of Tory toffs.

Balliol is well known as being a leftie college. Balliol PPE alumni include Stephanie Flanders, Robert Peston and Yvette Cooper (who was also president of the JCR in her time and very popular).

cynic - 01 Feb 2013 18:08 - 20898 of 81564

hils - amazed he got through balliol interview nonsense without some good left-wing leanings :-) ..... good for him!

cynic - 01 Feb 2013 18:12 - 20899 of 81564

hils - our posts x-ed! ..... exactly so, as my younger son discovered; he went to nottingham instead, which was actually the right choice as the english course there can be tailored to some extent ....he always wanted to go into digital advertising or similar, and was able to tilt his studies accordingly

hilary - 01 Feb 2013 18:12 - 20900 of 81564

Actually, cynic, one of the reasons they like him there is because his right-wing views provide a bit of balance. Unfortunately, the only other right-wing PPEist is a German. :)

goldfinger - 01 Feb 2013 18:13 - 20901 of 81564

Cynic I came away with 4 grade A 'A'Levels, maths economics business studies and general studies. The mate I refer to beat me by 1, he ended up with 5.

BOTH SECONDARY SCHOOL BOYS, both with MAs and PHDs in Economics. Now thats a FACT for you.

And I repeat their is nothing exceptional about David Cameron. FINITO

hilary - 01 Feb 2013 18:16 - 20902 of 81564

Cynic,

He did find one interview a bit disconcerting. He entered the room and a lecturer with a beard down to his navel was lying on a chaise longue. There were two chairs - one a comfy armchair, and the other a bolt upright dining chair - beardy asked him which chair he'd like to sit in......

Fortunately, they then tested him on game theory and he flew through the test with top marks.

hilary - 01 Feb 2013 18:17 - 20903 of 81564

Business Studies and General Studies are NOT proper A-levels. It's an insult to one's intelligence to even suggest or pretend they are!

cynic - 01 Feb 2013 18:20 - 20904 of 81564

so what GF, though bully for you ..... however, the tenet of your rant was, i think, that independent schools are full of toffs who have air-brains .... that is patent rubbish, just as would the converse be that all state school products are dimwits

and to go further down your nonsense-line, there is nothing to stop anyone at all, even you, from entering public service - aka standing for parliament

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hils - what on earth is game theory?

hilary - 01 Feb 2013 18:23 - 20905 of 81564

Game Theory Explained

Trading is a 3-player zero-sum game where one player (the house) always wins.

Haystack - 01 Feb 2013 18:23 - 20906 of 81564

What is 'general studies'? Is it like domestic science. Does that mean goldfinger has an A level in cooking and ironing?

goldfinger - 01 Feb 2013 18:25 - 20907 of 81564

Stop talking -ite. So art is , is it. Youd find it hard to find a tougher exam than maths. And dont forget when I took A levels only a certain % were allowed to pass at each grade. Its not open day like these days.

Anyway had enough of this drivel.Off for my tea or should that be evening dinner luvvy.

cynic - 01 Feb 2013 18:30 - 20908 of 81564

i suspect gf cannot actually sustain his nonsense argument, which isn't surprising really, as it was always based on preconceived garbage

cynic - 01 Feb 2013 18:32 - 20909 of 81564

merely as an aside, art A-level is surprisingly tough and you certainly need a lot of talent to get an A* ..... from there, to get into the likes of St Martins is tougher still

cynic - 01 Feb 2013 18:33 - 20910 of 81564

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Haystack - 01 Feb 2013 18:37 - 20911 of 81564

It is a bit of a myth that maths is such a difficult A level. Unlike many other A leveld, it is only about whether you understand it. If you understand maths then it has to be one of the easiest exams as there is almost no learning of facts involved. I would rate getting an A* in history as far more demanding.

Haystack - 01 Feb 2013 18:39 - 20912 of 81564

cynic
My mother's brother got a scholarsip to St Martins at age 13. He went on to be a painter, sculptor and a fairly famous fashion photographer.

goldfinger - 01 Feb 2013 18:42 - 20913 of 81564

Cynic he he...... I stand by it........

And whilst I support people's rights to send their children to private schools, (I believe that's their prerogative) the problem is, in this class-ridden society we live in, it will mean rather unexceptional people continuing to have exceptional education - - and by that token, the country will continue to be managed by unexceptional people, with unexceptional ideas, all masked by the name of the school they attended.

There is nothing exceptional about David Cameron.

NB, the Old Boys net work means that most of these toffs are PLACED and havent filled in a application form or CV in their life. Giddeon gets a placement because his father helped out Henrys son get a placement at his company.

You scratch my back and ill scratch your sons back.

Tally ho, you cant beat a drop of bolly down the bully.

Haystack - 01 Feb 2013 18:48 - 20914 of 81564

I do believe that Eton does allow some entrants who may not be outstanding, but that is not the case at schools such as Westminster. My son has a lot of friends at Westminster and these kids are outstanding and would come out top against almost anyone.

Fred1new - 01 Feb 2013 18:48 - 20915 of 81564

I can see in spite of their parents, some of the children are doing well.

Same applies for me.

But I think much of the posted above is crap.

Have a good weekend.

cynic - 01 Feb 2013 18:54 - 20916 of 81564

you really do talk such preconceived rubbish which i am afraid is just the trotting out of the pre-taught party-line, quite probably as drummed into you on your mother's knee - forgot; she was too busy scrubbing the master's doorstep and blacking the grate
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