bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
bosley
- 05 Oct 2006 23:43
- 20903 of 27111
hiya baza. funnily enough i was thinking the same thing ... almost as if they were preparing the ground so that they could be the investor's champion yet again ;) good article though and it shows that the pi can make the board sit up and listen if it's done correctly.
GeoffHo
- 06 Oct 2006 01:49
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Woodie - I'm inclined to agree with you. Calling people dumb was not in the best taste, but given how I think a team of drunken penguins could have run this company better than its existing management, I think giving said humans more money to burn would be rather silly.
About the line about management being either incompetent or much, much worse, perhaps I should have said that I think they are about as bright as a solar powered torch in a cave.
For the record folks, I have no feelings to hurt - when you've followed Man Utd for 23 years and endured the horror of watching the likes of Clayton Blackmore in the red shirt, criticism is like water off a duck's back. I am just genuinely perplexed as to why so many people believe in this company and take offence at the slightest criticism.
PS: If the shares recover and the company actually starts to turn promises into reality I'll eat my collection of every major league baseball team caps. Somehow I just can't see myself getting THAT much fibre in my diet.
greekman
- 06 Oct 2006 07:28
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Oblomov, Aldwickk.
Like you I take the post from Geoff Hoe! with a large pinch of salt.
Eagerly awaiting a reply from the E Mail sent to MAM by Aldwickk.
I am sure Geoff would agree, that we should take no one at face value until we get to know their agenda (if they have one) through reading their history of posts.
It is only then that that pinch of salt gets a lot smaller.
bhunt1910
- 06 Oct 2006 07:32
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Ah well - no news is not good news in my book.
We should have seen an rns this morning (in my view) to announce the money deal and new contracts. this wait will just add more uncertainty
hewittalan6
- 06 Oct 2006 07:39
- 20907 of 27111
I,too, Am disappointed, baza.
Confidant
- 06 Oct 2006 08:21
- 20908 of 27111
Now Geoff Ho is a more informed guy than me so he may well know that the placing will not go ahead. If he doesn't then he is underestimating the power of refinancing
A Big if coming....
If there is a refinancing I assume the refinancers will have insider info on deals ahead. Therefore they will know their money, at least in the short term, is backed by something concrete. And also as insiders they clear Geoff's "mad" hurdle
If there is a refinacing, it will be done at such a level, deemed to be 0.8p that means the refinancers think they can get a serious return.And by serious return this must take into account the low level of liquidity
Given all this a refi would be positive in outlook and I would see that the refinancers would get expect to see a doubling of their money -- unrealised -- on refinancing just t compensate for liquidity
As such a refi will see the share towards 2p no refi and towards 0.2p . You pays your money you takes your choice
Frampton
- 06 Oct 2006 08:32
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Have a look at other posts GeoffHo has written on this site - I think that shows he is who he says he is.
maestro
- 06 Oct 2006 08:45
- 20910 of 27111
Goeff's a liar..end of story
Oilywag
- 06 Oct 2006 08:50
- 20911 of 27111
Prove it maestro .... or shut up!
The oily one
aldwickk
- 06 Oct 2006 08:55
- 20912 of 27111
Had this reply to my email from MoneyAM this morning,
Yes this is Geoff Ho from Shares Magazine.
MoneyAM Support
bhunt1910
- 06 Oct 2006 08:55
- 20913 of 27111
14m buy at full ask !!
hewittalan6
- 06 Oct 2006 08:56
- 20914 of 27111
Can you cut n paste the e-mail?
Oilywag
- 06 Oct 2006 08:59
- 20915 of 27111
I assume that the 14m trade was a buy given the price of .98p with the spread .95 -.97p!
And, if it was, then somebody definitely knows something that you and I don't!
The oily one
09.04 Well its now listed as a buy on my screen
maestro
- 06 Oct 2006 09:02
- 20916 of 27111
aldwick a liar too..
Oilywag
- 06 Oct 2006 09:04
- 20917 of 27111
Has anyone got any insect repellent?
The oily one
maestro
- 06 Oct 2006 09:05
- 20918 of 27111
LIARS,LIARS,LIARS!!
greekman
- 06 Oct 2006 09:05
- 20919 of 27111
Maestro,
I am reluctant to squelch posters, but due to your consistent useless posts I have joined the long list that can spend no more time reading your rantings.
Goodbye
maestro
- 06 Oct 2006 09:07
- 20920 of 27111
YA BUNCH OF CITY DECEIVERS!
oblomov
- 06 Oct 2006 09:08
- 20921 of 27111
GeoffHo 'I am just genuinely perplexed as to why so many people believe in this company and take offence at the slightest criticism.'
I dont know whether you are GeoffHo of the shares magazine or not (I've never read the magazine) but whoever you are you seem to be unaware of the following and I hope it will help to ease your perplexity:-
There are a core of shareholding posters here who have suffered what to them are considerable losses on this share - I know several of us have lost between 40,000 - 100,00, and I believe there are some who have lost more.
The belief in the company has stemmed from RNS's and (possibly non-shareholding) hacks like you (if you are GeoffHo) who change opinion like the wind with no thought of the consequences to people who believe what you say. Tom Bulford also has a lot to answer for in that respect.
These genuine shareholders with a belief in this company have for over two years had to put up with posters seemingly genuine at first but with a hidden agenda that surfaces after a time to either knock or ramp the share or poke fun at those who have lost money - so far you fit the identikit of one of those posters perfectly.
You breeze in, apparently because a shareholder on this BB has taken offence that you have called shareholders dumb, and make inane comments attacking the SEO management with childish name calling and say you're perplexed at why people have taken offence. Thats shows a staggering lack of sensitivity to the situation
Myself, I'm perplexed at how someone like you can be unaware of how shareholders are feeling now. If your judgement can be so bad in this respect it doesn't say much for your powers to analyse the situation in relation to SEO.
You dont 'hurt my feelings' - I just find your blase attitude incomprehensible, given the above.
On the question of SEO's management , we have no reason yet to believe that the management have lied or misled in their RN's or recent meetings with shareholders. That they are inexperienced and out of their depth is a more likely cause of the current situation.
You have intimated legal wrongdoing - can you substantiate that for me please, or was it just a flippant remark with no thought for the effect it could have?
Oilywag
- 06 Oct 2006 09:11
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Good post Oblomov
The oily one