bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
oblomov
- 06 Oct 2006 09:08
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GeoffHo 'I am just genuinely perplexed as to why so many people believe in this company and take offence at the slightest criticism.'
I dont know whether you are GeoffHo of the shares magazine or not (I've never read the magazine) but whoever you are you seem to be unaware of the following and I hope it will help to ease your perplexity:-
There are a core of shareholding posters here who have suffered what to them are considerable losses on this share - I know several of us have lost between 40,000 - 100,00, and I believe there are some who have lost more.
The belief in the company has stemmed from RNS's and (possibly non-shareholding) hacks like you (if you are GeoffHo) who change opinion like the wind with no thought of the consequences to people who believe what you say. Tom Bulford also has a lot to answer for in that respect.
These genuine shareholders with a belief in this company have for over two years had to put up with posters seemingly genuine at first but with a hidden agenda that surfaces after a time to either knock or ramp the share or poke fun at those who have lost money - so far you fit the identikit of one of those posters perfectly.
You breeze in, apparently because a shareholder on this BB has taken offence that you have called shareholders dumb, and make inane comments attacking the SEO management with childish name calling and say you're perplexed at why people have taken offence. Thats shows a staggering lack of sensitivity to the situation
Myself, I'm perplexed at how someone like you can be unaware of how shareholders are feeling now. If your judgement can be so bad in this respect it doesn't say much for your powers to analyse the situation in relation to SEO.
You dont 'hurt my feelings' - I just find your blase attitude incomprehensible, given the above.
On the question of SEO's management , we have no reason yet to believe that the management have lied or misled in their RN's or recent meetings with shareholders. That they are inexperienced and out of their depth is a more likely cause of the current situation.
You have intimated legal wrongdoing - can you substantiate that for me please, or was it just a flippant remark with no thought for the effect it could have?
Oilywag
- 06 Oct 2006 09:11
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Good post Oblomov
The oily one
hewittalan6
- 06 Oct 2006 09:12
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To summarise Oblos post;
It is not the content that people take offence to (andysmith is a highly regarded poster on here who is not a fan of SEO) but to the tone of posters.
No genuine invester would enjoy the sight of a fellow invester losing vast amounts of money, but some posters seem to delight in it. Your post came accross as that.
Alan
aldwickk
- 06 Oct 2006 09:14
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I believed Geoff was from Shares Mag , i only emailed to confirm it to other posters. And i agree with everything he said.
hewittalan6
- 06 Oct 2006 09:17
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So you are not going to cut n paste it?
rpaco
- 06 Oct 2006 09:21
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Geoff Ho has only reiterated my own opinion of SEO senior management's incompetence in basic marketing skills which I have posted here before and have been amply bourn out. He went to great length to spell out that it was his opinion not the magazine's, some of you could obviously not be bothered to read all the sentences.
Had SEO been a task in the Apprentice, the whole board would have been fired for
lack of market research and basic business skills, poor communication and bad management.
Above all they needed to go on an old fashioned Marketing course and learn that sales and product are only two of the necessary attributes in the marketing mix. They obviously had both of these buttoned up but completely forgot the rest. Perhaps they thought it all just happened if you got a product and a customer?
If it turns out that any directors hold rights to part of the technology via other companies then we will have another Pheonix/Rover debacle.
aldwickk
- 06 Oct 2006 09:21
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Oilywag
- 06 Oct 2006 09:23
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Before everybody gets too depressed, there might be an RNS later this morning or around 1pm today announcing the completed fundraising exercise.
Those large trade makes me think that there is something afoot.
The oily one
hewittalan6
- 06 Oct 2006 09:23
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No that doesn't work Aldwickk
aldwickk
- 06 Oct 2006 09:24
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hewittalan6
Email them, if you don't believe me.
IanT(MoneyAM)
- 06 Oct 2006 09:24
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Just to confirm - the posting is from Geoff Ho at Shares.
Ian
hewittalan6
- 06 Oct 2006 09:26
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Thank yo Ian,
Clarification.
aldwickk I rarely believe you, but there again I believe very little of what i read on these boards, even from me.
aldwickk
- 06 Oct 2006 09:27
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Thanks Ian
oblomov
- 06 Oct 2006 09:34
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Alan,
There is a vast difference between what is acceptable for you and I and others on this BB to post and what is acceptable for a 'journalist' or 'share tipper' in their professional capacity. IMO Mr Ho's posts fall far short of what I would consider professional. We dont purport to be experts, he does. You'd expect posts like his from some of the nutters we've seen over the past few years, but not from a professional - and certainly not from andysmith who got it right when hacks like Ho and Bulford were convincing us everything was hunky dory!
Oily,
Re telephone call - is it still on, nowt received!
aldwickk
- 06 Oct 2006 09:36
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hewittalan6,
So you didn't buy GFM, when i was tipping them.
pinnacle
- 06 Oct 2006 09:37
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Considerable number of buys and yet the price doesn't move - why?
Just some good news and those shorters would be stuffed - that would make my day!!
Oilywag
- 06 Oct 2006 09:46
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Oblomov
I shall send it again. Seems to have got lost in the ether.
However, having spoken at length to somebody yesterday afternoon, I have decided to wait a day or two before sending the proposed message; it seems we are very close to an announcement and my rather to the point questioning on their management skills would only be an unnecessary distraction for them right now.
Anyway, having slept on it, there are other questions which will be added if the fundraising does not go as well as intimated in their RNS yesterday.
Hope that's clear.
And to the person to whom I spoke yesterday, thanks very much for your measuread and rational input.
The oily one