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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

cynic - 13 May 2008 14:04 - 2093 of 21973

sometimes, or just fall in feet first and have to hang on by my fingertips!

bhunt1910 - 13 May 2008 16:25 - 2094 of 21973

Looks like your hunch was right cynic. Well done you

I set my stop loss too tight and got stopped out twice with just a 5 profit each time.

Oh well - Back to the garden

cynic - 14 May 2008 07:04 - 2095 of 21973

i thought US was remarkably robust yesterday given the raft of horrid news ..... though Dow fell, it was only by a very modest 60 points or so, whereas just a couple of weeks ago 300+ would have been the order of the day.

to me, it is looking more and more like a head of steam building for a break north to at least 13000

cynic - 14 May 2008 15:33 - 2096 of 21973

may have made a totally crap call on SOLA, but at least above post proving correct

spitfire43 - 14 May 2008 18:20 - 2097 of 21973

Hope you traded DOW long cynic. I didn't because I only trade FTSE at the moment, once I have some more experience, I would look at dow next.

I know the feeling, having made a rubbish call on KGF short last week.

I think I will take gf advice, re - not trading duel listed stocks, I will look elsewhere. I like the look at gmg for a short which seem very overbrought, but will wait for confirmation of entry on the charts. A dead cross would be a good sign.

cynic - 14 May 2008 19:15 - 2098 of 21973

i have indeed .... helps greatly to soften the pain of the greed ... still running, but not sure what to do when (if) it hits 13000

bhunt1910 - 14 May 2008 22:57 - 2099 of 21973

sell - least ways I hope you did

cynic - 15 May 2008 06:26 - 2100 of 21973

took profit though less than it might have been

disappointing though the late sharp sell-off certainly was, do remember Dow still finished +60 or so and above 12850 ..... nevertheless 12950/13000/13050 (depends where you draw your line) is proving a very stubborn resistance

bhunt1910 - 16 May 2008 07:29 - 2101 of 21973

I went shoty on the Dow last night just before the close at 12995 - andleft it open overnight. Just taken profits.

Although I feel this has further to fall - it was stubbornly moving upward and eroding my profit. Will look again later.

spitfire43 - 16 May 2008 07:49 - 2102 of 21973

Morning

I'm finding it hard this morning to see the direction of FTSE, what to do ? looking at dow,dax and cac I would be looking for a higher open. Will we see 6300 today ? "maybe" but if the ftse gets close then reverses I will try and place a short.

Well thats the plan at the moment.

Good Luck............

cynic - 16 May 2008 07:59 - 2103 of 21973

i feel much hinges on Dow where 13000/13050 has proved a very stubborn resistance ..... if dabbling, a very close eye or pretty tight stop losses are the order of the day

spitfire43 - 16 May 2008 08:24 - 2104 of 21973

I came across this from another site, showing the last 10 days volume on the DOW out of the first 94 trading days of this year, with 1 = highest volume and 94 = lowest.

15/05/2008 63
14/05/2008 53
13/05/2008 51
12/05/2008 92
9/05/2008 86
8/05/2008 64
7/05/2008 47
6/05/2008 56
5/05/2008 91
2/05/2008 54


Conclusion could be rally has no legs as it struggles up suckers hill ?

bhunt1910 - 16 May 2008 08:27 - 2105 of 21973

Well I decided to go long on the FTSE at 6260 and have just moved my SL up to 6270

bhunt1910 - 16 May 2008 10:15 - 2106 of 21973

Out at 6345 - maybe too soon - but decided to bank my profit - better safe thanb sorry

goal - 16 May 2008 10:24 - 2107 of 21973

Well played bhunt1910.

bhunt1910 - 16 May 2008 10:35 - 2108 of 21973

Long again at 6330? Not sure about this one - maybe I am being greedy now?

bhunt1910 - 16 May 2008 10:48 - 2109 of 21973

out again at 6342

bhunt1910 - 16 May 2008 11:27 - 2110 of 21973

sitting on my hands for the moment - probably the best thing for me to do as i get so involved - not good

required field - 16 May 2008 12:34 - 2111 of 21973

Goldman Sachs have just lifted their oil price estimation for the second half from $107 to $141 per barrel.....that's a big increase in my book !

spitfire43 - 16 May 2008 12:55 - 2112 of 21973

Good trading bhunt, fortunately I never got my short away. Strangly my trading system was indicating a long first thing, but I ignored it.

I feel a new rule needs to be written. "Have faith in trading system, place position with stops then walk away" Well three rules then.
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