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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


Oilywag - 06 Oct 2006 14:28 - 20970 of 27111

Oblomov

You'll be the death of this board if you keep posting images like that!!

The oily one

Tokyo - 06 Oct 2006 14:30 - 20971 of 27111

not all trades are being reported shown yet, bought over 700k this morning and can't see my trade on the trades page.

admitedly this is a small speculative buy as apart from their financial mess, they still have some great technology, also liked the RNS and then subsquent reporting of the funding in the times, who are normally on the money in such cases, although hardly surprising as most directors are more than happy to give them the story when it is in their favour.

My fingers are crossed for a recovery for you long term holders

good luck all

Tokyo

bhunt1910 - 06 Oct 2006 15:39 - 20972 of 27111

well it does not look like we are getting an RNS today does it

Perhaps Monday

Perhaps Tuesday
Perhaps........

oblomov - 06 Oct 2006 15:43 - 20973 of 27111

And waited, and waited, and waited...........

andysmith - 06 Oct 2006 15:45 - 20974 of 27111

AdieH, to answer your question? I have some cash ready and waiting should the financing look sufficient to see SEO through to profitability. I want to see a contract not trials and will research friends/contacts in the packaging industry for updates before I commit to buying any shares in SEO. Starpol could transform this company it is just a pity that a major league fuck up had to happen first. I don't care whether I pay 0.8p or 1.5p if it looks good, I will only have to commit <10% of my original sell value to get the same number of shares although I may increase to take account of all the bloody dilutions over the last year. Companies have come back from far worse, IF they can raise 13m from somebody then they will have to have proved that they are close to bringing something to fruition which will generate and cash and profits, if not then the 13m wallet holder is really dumb!! Hope its an institution and not a broker who will raise hopes and the sp, get rid of stock, take profit on sales and then not really give a shit what happens over the next 12 months.

zscrooge - 06 Oct 2006 16:22 - 20975 of 27111

oblomov - 06 Oct 2006 13:03 - 20963 of 20974

I disagree, bos, for the reasons already given. Mr Ho has thus far failed to answer my question and substantiate his claims of 'much, much worse'.

PM1 has reported him to the FSA.

LOLS!

On a general note, won't the instis already have short sold the shares weeks ago?
No contract announcement. And if there is (rather than talks/promises) it could well be eaten up in operating costs before any gain is accrued.

bosley - 06 Oct 2006 16:28 - 20976 of 27111

andy, institutions didn't touch seo when all was hunky dory, i can't see them getting involved now unless it's some special situations fund.

zscrooge, it tickled you, too?

driver, got your email, reply sent ... but you already know that .

maestro - 06 Oct 2006 16:39 - 20977 of 27111

heard a whisper monday..enyoy the weekend

Oilywag - 06 Oct 2006 16:42 - 20978 of 27111

bosley

Fidelity Asset Management in the shape of Andrew Bolton took a lot of the last tranch of shares at 8.1p to raise capital.

They might want to average down!?!

Institutions now will only touch this company if there are cast iron contracts to support the share price and indeed raise it considerably above present levels.

The oily one

hewittalan6 - 06 Oct 2006 16:49 - 20979 of 27111

Not only will institutions want to see concrete contracts, they will want to analyse those contracts to ensure they are worth something.
After all, the management managed to get a contract on THREE seperate occassions, with one of the biggest supermarkets in the country. This contract is there and operational yet somehow, not only did they get it so badly wrong they are making no money from it 2 years later, but it is actually a hinderence to other contracts.
I am a supporter of SEO and I know the Asda stuff is happening (subject to SEO's existence), but for crying out loud, if SEO have signed a hundred contracts, it is worth nothing if they will take 2 years to move and still not be prfitable.
There. Disgruntled rant over with.

oblomov - 06 Oct 2006 17:56 - 20980 of 27111

Still waiting..........

bhunt1910 - 06 Oct 2006 18:00 - 20981 of 27111

Oblo - love it

oblomov - 06 Oct 2006 22:19 - 20982 of 27111


An interesting piece on the Ho debate with some good points here from PM1 - posting it because I know most are 'locked out'. Those fans of Mr Ho may see him in a different light after reading this!

stanelco
Site Admin

Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 640
Location: Jersey, Channel Islands


Hi Stan,

Ho is just like EK, if you remember EK shorted Stanelco, until I sent him all the EVO notes and other info, pointing out his short was based on no research at all (he then went long !!), and so was that of Ho when he started telling the world to short SEO back at over 8p ??

If he hadn't jumped in with his shorting and bashing, Stanelco could have got TEN TIMES the placing value they can now, after he has instigated the destruction of Stanelco's SP, so you can list all the people on this website that you like, and I bet you that every single one of them would have much preffered a placing worth TEN TIMES what they are getting now, or dilution of ONE TENTH of what we are getting now, or anywhere in between.

Ho has picked the bashers favorite subjects and pumped them with the power of the press, ignoring any positives, and all the potential, including imminent MMF deals and GreenSeal rollout for ASDA salad bags, in fact he has ignored EVERYTHING on this Website and forum, and just looked at the books, and the bashers attacks on the BB's, just like EK did, but EK knew he was wrong the moment he set eyes on an EVO note.

I have seen Ho saying that Stanelco will go bust soon because nobody would lend them the money, now why would that be ?, lets rewind to 10p, would they have got enough money to last another year with 318m shares in a placing, yes, because the stock hadn't been shorted to death, so the fact he has told the world to short Stanelco down to 1p and now less, means they can't raise enough money to last one year without a huge placing or rights issue.

Ho has destroyed Staneclo's ability to finance at a level that is right and fair, based as it should be in the most part, on the companies NAV, IP value, and potential.

Maybe you should nip over to MAM and ask which other names he uses on BB's to bash Stanelco, and which other shorters and bashers he has for his best friends, maybe ask which one's pay for his hoilidays, new car, etc.

Cheers,
Paul

andysmith - 06 Oct 2006 22:42 - 20983 of 27111

What a load of crap. SEO's price is on its knees solely becuase no cash left, no sales yet and nobody believes a word anymore after all the false estimates in the form of RNS's and brokers notes. Can't blame Ho for that unless you add Ward White on the end.

zscrooge - 06 Oct 2006 22:50 - 20984 of 27111

What a load of utter tosh. Oblo, your credibility is zero, given that you believe that post by Masterson is "interesting." Just like EW Robson (where is he), another poster purporting to be Mr Reasonable.

EVO notes and research. LOL. All the fault of big bad shorters and magazine pundits. More LOLS.

"Ho has destroyed Stanelco's ability to finance at a level that is right and fair." More drivel.

chocolat - 06 Oct 2006 23:15 - 20985 of 27111

Oh no, guys - come on.
Wake up!

Never mind, "Ho has destroyed Staneclo's ability to finance at a level that is right and fair, based as it should be in the most part, on the companies NAV, IP value, and potential."

What about "If he hadn't jumped in with his shorting and bashing, Stanelco could have got TEN TIMES the placing value they can now, after he has instigated the destruction of Stanelco's SP, so you can list all the people on this website that you like, and I bet you that every single one of them would have much preffered a placing worth TEN TIMES what they are getting now, or dilution of ONE TENTH of what we are getting now, or anywhere in between."


Not only drivel, zscrooge, but if I were Geoff, I know what I would do now.

Edit: forget it, the whole of PM's note is ridden with libel.
I'm trying to wind down, it is Friday after all - and that guy really winds me up.

And, err ... just looking at the books?
That is the bottom line!

Tonyrelaxes - 06 Oct 2006 23:40 - 20986 of 27111

Interesting, very interesting week ahead.
Busy too.
Lots going on - and not just here.
I go to bed far happier than I woke up.
Good night all.

oblomov - 07 Oct 2006 09:05 - 20987 of 27111


I said it was interesting, Zscrooge, not that I agreed with everything in it (particularly the final paragraph)! I'm sure no one needs reminding that I'm no great fan of PM1's!

Over the top in typical PM1 style, full of libel, mostly tosh, but I still think it has a grain of truth in that the tippers such as TB and GeoffHo turned negative at a crucial time in the fund raising negotiations. TB in particular still had SEO at a buy to 15p and a target 50p - he went to a hold, said nothing for weeks and then its a sell. All this on the assumption that SEO wouldn't raise the cash. It would surely have been better for the followers they had put into the stock if they had waited to a stage where it was certain there would be no funding forthcoming?

As it is, it looks a possibility that they got it wrong - there are strong indications that funding is imminent.

TB, Shares Mag, RHPS and others have a big following. Might we not now be looking at funding nearer 2p or even higher if not for their sudden negativity?

Anyway, I thought it would be fun to see one of PM1's post here. He has a unique style - 95% tosh but sometimes 5% substance if you're lucky enough to find it!

Frampton - 07 Oct 2006 09:32 - 20988 of 27111

Oblo,
You can't seriously believe the fall in share price is down to Geoff Ho?! Take a look at the once loyal holders' posts on this board, to see the disillusionment creeping in over the past few months. Look at the RNSs promising the world but failing to deliver, or the fact the company is going to run out of cash any moment - this is why the share price is going down the pan.

hewittalan6 - 07 Oct 2006 09:35 - 20989 of 27111

Tonyrelaxes,
I understand completely if you can say no more, but..................
You know my contact details.
Thanks,
Alan
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