banjomick
- 12 Jan 2009 22:53
Eight ordinary people are given a million dollars, a fortnight of intensive training and two months to run their own hedge fund. Can they make a killing?
The experiment reveals the inner workings of a City trading floor. The money is supplied by hedge fund manager Lex van Dam: he wants to see if ordinary people can beat the professionals, and he expects a return on his investment too. Yet no-one foresees the financial crisis that lies ahead.
The traders were selected in spring 2008, before the US credit crisis gathered pace. The successful candidates were chosen, trained and dispatched to their specially created trading room in the heart of the Square Mile. Among them are an environmentalist, a soldier, a boxing promoter, an entrepreneur, a retired IT consultant, a vet, a student and a shopkeeper.
As the novices learn the dark art of trading stocks and shares, the financial markets start to buckle. Making money takes second place to basic survival as the brutal realities of global economics take their toll on the traders. How do they cope? Will they secure themselves a bonus, or walk away with nothing?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00gthhq
Now see the unseen City-4 January 2009
Lex Van Dam and his million dollar TV gamble-07 Jan 2009
TheVoid
- 14 Jan 2009 11:19
- 21 of 114
Strange how your perception of age changes as you get older - I used to think 50 was old
I've set up a blog dealing with the Million Dollar Traders to see how they get on over the 8 weeks
Million Dollar Traders
Ruth
- 15 Jan 2009 09:35
- 22 of 114
TheVoid, interesting , thanks, will be watching it with interest.
Seymour Clearly
- 15 Jan 2009 10:45
- 23 of 114
Watched this last night. He's given them $1m = 600k. Using CFD's, margin of 10x, that means he's risking 60k of his own money. Cheap way to fame! I noticed one of the positions was automatically stopped out, so most likely is CFDs.
Also the phone chat between them is so contrived, he's getting upset about 2k???
TheVoid
- 16 Jan 2009 03:33
- 24 of 114
Yes, the amounts lost seemed small to me too - 200 ! I use that in toilet paper on a bad day.
Plus, I'm convinced he's hedging against all the losses, he would be nuts not to.
Ruth I will try and update the blog regularly, hopefully when the show really gets going there will be more to say.
ValueMax
- 16 Jan 2009 08:38
- 26 of 114
Good show. I get the impression that the winner will be by luck rather than judgement.
I really liked Evan Davis' programme about banking a couple of evenings ago. I think it's a series rather than a one-off, so looking forward to the next one.
TheVoid
- 16 Jan 2009 11:18
- 27 of 114
I thought there were 8 shows. Seems like I should pay more attention !
KEAYDIAN
- 16 Jan 2009 13:55
- 28 of 114
Watching it now on IPLAYER
Ruth
- 18 Jan 2009 13:32
- 29 of 114
TheVoid, thanks, looking forward to this weeks show,
They couldnt have picked a more volatile time to film it could they.right in the middle of the banking crisis, poor buggers,its hard enough at the best of times,
never mind 200 point swings in the dow in 5 mins;-)
Falcothou
- 18 Jan 2009 17:24
- 30 of 114
Quite a harsh introduction... in at 6am assessing news/ creating strategies and then stuck in front of blinking numbers til the close, no wonder they freeze/ trade like headless chickens. They should work like real hedgies quaffing champers in Curzon street for a liquid lunch, may be that comes later in the series!
Kayak
- 18 Jan 2009 20:10
- 32 of 114
I wonder if the trades actually go to the market? That would seem to me the other good reason for using the telephone. The broker at the other end just enters a dummy trade.
Self19
- 18 Jan 2009 20:29
- 34 of 114
good point kayak...most probably dummy trades...and why is Lex getting so upset over 2k? It's all for dramatic effect 'cos we all know real trading is very boring if your doing it right. Poor sods have a couple weeks to learn what it took me almost 2 years...thought the Major's pair trade was a decent punt for a novice.
banjomick
- 18 Jan 2009 21:00
- 35 of 114
Just had a quick Google and not sure if this is correct or not:
Posted by reactor on 01-16-09 05:02 PM:
They are phoning up a real broker "Mint" based in Cannon Street. Similar setup as ICAP but on a smaller scale.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/printthread.php?threadid=150540
They still could be dummy trades of course......................
banjomick
- 18 Jan 2009 21:19
- 36 of 114
A little bit more research brought up this about the making of the series:
"Meanwhile, the complex business of setting up a hedge fund and meeting the requirements of the Financial Services Authority got underway."
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/technology/onlocation/2009/01/on_location_how_to_cut_it_on_the_trading_floor.html
PlanB
- 18 Jan 2009 22:01
- 37 of 114
"Oh, and the ending came as a total surprise to us all.so watch this space."
.. from banjomick's link above.
I think Kayak's on the money here (no real trades being made). Eventual relief for the "traders" I suspect.
Kayak
- 18 Jan 2009 22:17
- 38 of 114
Though it's not obvious why you would need FSA approval if you're just running an investment game... or a lot of legal fees...
Scripophilist
- 19 Jan 2009 12:24
- 40 of 114
Why don't they do what most traders do and click a mouse to scalp a few ticks here and there. The sort of "trading" they do belongs to the 1980's doesn't it?