Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Is there really a Haystack or is it just a stooge for central office that go on BBs to defend their dodgy deceptive lie machine that is Dave .

Haystack why has the UK(cameron) given 2 billion euro's to help Turkey
achieve fast track membership of the EU...Where has this money gone
if its not been used for what they say its for???...

There was reports yesterday from cameron that Turkey would'nt be
joining for hundreds of years......

WHAT AN UTTER LIE AND A BLATANT ATTEMPT AT DECEIVING THE PUBLIC...

IT'S BEEN CAMERONS ONGOING OBJECTIVE TO GET TURKEY INTO THE EU!!!

As it's his next destination , that is a JOB in Brussels , there's got to be some collaboration with Merkel I would think a sort of get lining things up now . I've always thought he couldn't care how many immigrants came here .

Cameron's claims on Brexit 'risible' say economists



By Szu Ping Chan
22 May 2016 • 8:48pm




David Cameron's claim that prices will jump if Britain leaves the EU is “nonsense” and based on complete guesswork, critics have claimed.

The criticism by former MPs and economists comes as the Prime Minister and Chancellor George Osborne warn today that a vote to leave will push the economy into a year-long recession and “put hundreds of thousands of people out of work right across the country”.

Norman Lamont dismissed claims that a drop in the pound would increase shopping bills and leave Britons with less money in their pockets as “more scaremongering”.

The former Tory Chancellor said the EU’s Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) was distorting markets and keeping prices artificially high by limiting competition from outside the bloc.

“Of all the scares and alarmism, the suggestion that prices would go up by leaving the EU is the most bizarre,” he said.

“Every one knows that one of the purposes of the EU as founded was to keep the price of food high and the CAP does exactly that. Leaving the EU would cut food prices.”

Treasury analysis shows the food costs for a family of two adults and two children will climb by around £120 a year by 2018 if Britain votes for Brexit, while clothing and footwear prices will rise by around £100.

Patrick Minford, Margaret Thatcher’s former economic adviser also claimed prices would fall if Britain left the “protectionist” EU bloc, while Ruth Lea, economic adviser to the Arbuthnot Banking Group, described the Treasury analysis as “bizarre and risible”.



More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/05/22/emb-midnight-camerons-claims-on-brexit-risible-say-economists/

I'm reading about a Steve Hilton the PMs closest friend in Politics today . Steve Hilton breaks ranks to say Britain must leave the " arrogant and unaccountable EU . Says a shattering blow to the PM . I dare say we will be told by someone in a minute that he's of no importance at all .

Do I spy Granny,

I'm past caring about your cartoons , you paid by the cartoon . During all this time Freda not one has made any differance .

Some are less sensitive than others.

Take Manuel for instance.

I am trying to read through here but Thicko as usual is posting big childish cartoons .

Steve Hilton is a huge blow to Cameron VIC ,your right , i wonder how he will defend this one .

https://www.politicshome.com/news/europe/eu-policy-agenda/brexit/news/75257/steve-hilton-uk-should-leave-hubristic-european-union

Have you got one for people who hate the English , would that be sensitive .

Well done MaxK .

As far as the comment about Conservatives workers, working hard for an election victory.

I daresay many like me voted tactically, I voted Conservative to ensure a euro referendum, no other reason to vote Conservative for me.

The only draw for people not to vote LIB DEM or UKIP was the undertaking to hold a referendum.

I expect to see a resurgence of LIB DEM and UKIP after the referendum in subsequent elections no matter what the result is.

fwiw

Somebody had to prod Dumbo back into life.

Why?

Probably true of a fair few poo bear , but will it make any difference who we vote in , in the future as they will be pretty powerless as we get swamped by EU dictatorship . That's what it's all about , to be able to make our own decisions .

Why we MUST quit the EU, by Cameron's guru: Friend and strategist Steve Hilton breaks ranks on Brexit to say Britain will be 'literally ungovernable' unless we take back power from the self-serving elite

Former key adviser to David Cameron defies him a month before the vote

Says Britain is 'ungovernable' after being 'corruptly captured' by the EU

Believes EU will take revenge on Britain for vote and impose new diktats
Said their refusal to grant 'modest' demands shows no will for reform


By James Slack And Jason Groves For The Daily Mail

Published: 22:30, 22 May 2016 |



David Cameron’s closest friend in politics today breaks ranks to say Britain must leave the ‘arrogant and unaccountable’ EU.

In a shattering blow to the Prime Minister, Steve Hilton claims the UK is ‘literally ungovernable’ as a democracy while it remains in a club that has been ‘corruptly captured’ by a self-serving elite.

And in an attack on Project Fear, the former No 10 adviser dismisses claims by Mr Cameron, the IMF and the Bank of England that being in the EU makes us more secure.

In an exclusive Daily Mail article, Mr Hilton – who persuaded Mr Cameron to stand for Tory leader – also delivers a devastating assessment of the PM’s referendum deal.

He says Mr Cameron made only ‘modest’ demands of Brussels – and that even these were swatted contemptuously aside. He also warns that Brussels will take revenge on Britain for the referendum if it votes to stay, by imposing fresh diktats.

Mr Hilton concludes: ‘A decision to leave the EU is not without risk. But I believe it is the ideal and idealistic choice for our times: taking back power from arrogant, unaccountable, hubristic elites and putting it where it belongs – in people’s hands.’

His declaration for Brexit with exactly a month to go until polling day will send tremors through No 10.

Along with Michael Gove, he provided the intellectual heft behind Mr Cameron’s rise to power.




More: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3603793/Why-quit-EU-Cameron-s-guru-Friend-strategist-Steve-Hilton-breaks-ranks-Brexit-say-Britain-literally-ungovernable-unless-power-self-serving-elite.html

Fred stay out of it your too stupid .

This is what is starting to happen around Europe due to Merkels reckless policies .

Austria’s presidential race: Far-right Hofer wins with 51.9%, intrigue with postal ballots uncounted


https://www.rt.com/news/344020-far-right-austria-president/

What more do you want .

Jesus,

Imagine the decisions Vicky, Dumbo and Granny's Boy might make for others.

8-)

I think they ought to be exported to Austria.

They may feel at home there.
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Forgot they may be treated as immigrants.

I want to see Cameron asked about Hilton's views on the EU ,he has been extremely important to Dave's political career .