bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
hewittalan6
- 09 Oct 2006 14:03
- 21085 of 27111
The RNS does say a prospectus is on its way out, Tony, so you will hear what they have to say, you just won't be able to ask questions.
Alan
PATISEAR
- 09 Oct 2006 14:13
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Tonyrelaxes
Could you please state where this news comes from;
"And that if there are to be significant contract announcements "these are to be in October"
Thanks.
Tonyrelaxes
- 09 Oct 2006 14:15
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I think the Prospectus is the big white document without a cover like we had in August last year about the BioTec acquisition. It only contains facts about the Company - not prospects (despite the name!)
It contains masses of information such as employment Service Contracts etc etc. Far more information than the Annual Accounts.
The last one was highly informative but gave no indication of what is to come.
The Prospectus is planned to be issued on this wednesday 11th. So only tomorrow to announce anything to go in it that is not already in the public domain.
Tonyrelaxes
- 09 Oct 2006 14:17
- 21088 of 27111
Patisear
See past posts from Alan about his "imaginary" friend and ADSAs plans for November.
And I did say IF
hewittalan6
- 09 Oct 2006 14:22
- 21089 of 27111
To back that up, I can confirm that Asda is still "on", as of last Friday.
I am also interested looking at the "such as UZET world in the USA" bit.
This suggests that;
1) SEO have clients waiting in the USA
2) As we have discovered, SEO are looking to utilise spare capacity wherever they find it as a cheap and quick route
3) There are others in the same position.
There again, you can read anything into an SEO RNS.
Alan
PATISEAR
- 09 Oct 2006 14:22
- 21090 of 27111
Tonyrelaxes
Thanks.
zscrooge
- 09 Oct 2006 14:26
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As yet, there are no contracts. This is an open offer and not underwritten. The fundraising may or may not be successful. (Howard White's role will be interesting).It appears nobody really wants the shares. If contracts materialise, they cannot be that useful given the lack of interest from serious players.
WOODIE
- 09 Oct 2006 14:36
- 21092 of 27111
just got back only had time to read a few posts, part of obol question re post 21047 has been answered re if the s/price goes below the 0.80 level this is the problem with it not being underwritten, if it was ,it would make no difference has the company would still receive the full amount they want.
as i posted here about a month ago the company were struggling to get any backers to pump more money no one was interested to take on the shares if shareholders passed on the uptake , so it comes down to shareholders do you pass on more shares or help the company to keep going?
bosley
- 09 Oct 2006 14:36
- 21093 of 27111
oblo, totally agree with you about this bit,
"In order to exploit opportunities in the US relating to the manufacture of
Biotec Materials relating to MAP, it will be necessary for Stanelco to make use
of Biotec's intellectual property. The Joint Venture Agreement does not,
however, explicitly create a licence for Stanelco to use Biotec's intellectual
property nor does it expressly provide for SPhere to co-operate with Stanelco in
order to procure that Biotec grants Stanelco the appropriate licence to use
Biotec's intellectual property. Having taken confirmatory legal advice on the
interpretation of the Joint Venture Agreement (on the basis, inter alia, that
Biotec has insufficient capacity to meet Stanelco's requirements for Biotec
Materials relating to MAP, particularly in the US, that it is unable or
unwilling to build the facilities in the US to meet such requirements and the
parties have or will have unsuccessfully tried to find alternative solutions to
minimise the impact on Biotec's business in accordance with the provisions of
the Joint Venture Agreement), Stanelco believes that there is an implicit
obligation on SPhere to co-operate with Stanelco to pass a shareholder
resolution directing Biotec Holding GmbH to grant the appropriate licence to
Stanelco or to procure that the relevant Biotec entity does so.
There is, however, a risk that in such event SPhere will not co-operate with
Stanelco in which case Stanelco would need to refer the matter to arbitration
under the terms of the Joint Venture Agreement. In such event, there is also a
risk that the arbitrator would find against Stanelco and would not oblige SPhere
to co-operate in procuring that Biotec grants Stanelco the appropriate licence.
In addition, unless and until such time as Stanelco obtains the appropriate
licence from Biotec, there is a risk that the relevant Biotec entity will seek
to bring an action against Stanelco for infringement of its intellectual
property rights and that the German courts will uphold any such action."
when you consider seo timeframes (!!!!) these paragraphs are quite frightening. nearly 15 months on from the official start of the asda contract and greenseal still isn't a go-go.
"The exclusive agreement between ASDA and Stanelco for Stanelco's GREENSEAL
technology has been extended for another 12 months by verbal agreement as at 10
August 2006. The exclusivity will be waived after the first machine has been
installed in an ASDA packaging supplier's factory. This will then allow Stanelco
to roll out GREENSEAL to non-exclusive ASDA sites."
are we still waiting for the first machine to be installed? sounds like it. i'm not really all that encouraged by this rns. anybody going to the egm be sure to give them, (the management), a good verbal kicking....... please!
PATISEAR
- 09 Oct 2006 14:51
- 21094 of 27111
Are there still 60mil shares on loan to shorters???
jimward9
- 09 Oct 2006 15:19
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What happens to loan stock when this dilution happens?
greekman
- 09 Oct 2006 15:26
- 21096 of 27111
Alan,
Thanks re the Uzet bit.
Looking at it I also think it's the manufacturing capability they are interested in.
Kim,
As to another joint venture. May not be a bad thing dependent of course on conditions,terms. A joint venture might be the best way to get things moving in large quantities quicker. Just a thought.
hewittalan6
- 09 Oct 2006 15:35
- 21097 of 27111
Tony,
re your comment about only tomorrow for anything that has to go in the prospectus being issued.
Would i be right in saying that the prospectus will have the rider stating that it is correct at the time of going to press? Also, the issuing of it does not put SEO in a close period, and finally that any announcement could be listed as an addendum to the prospectus.
If any of those are right, then news can come at any time, but i would expect it before the placement.
Just thinking out loud again.
Alan
greekman
- 09 Oct 2006 15:42
- 21098 of 27111
Be a bit ironic, if a contract gets signed prior to the offer of .8p take up date.
We can but hope.
sellsell
- 09 Oct 2006 15:44
- 21099 of 27111
thing is Alan, we have been waiting for good news for such a long time and it never seems to come!
jimward9
- 09 Oct 2006 15:44
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Are SEO paying for these or only 50% is 2.8m full cost or SEO share.
Do Sphere pay same.
(to ensure successful completion by either Biotec, ((or in accordance with
the provisions of the Joint Venture Agreement)), Stanelco of at least the first
two manufacturing facilities in the USA, which will cost approximately 2.8m
each, for the production of starch-based resins, including Starpol materials,developed by Biotec)
I thouht these were going to be licenced out for others to build.
hewittalan6
- 09 Oct 2006 15:45
- 21101 of 27111
Poetic justice is the term for which you strive, greek ;-)
WOODIE
- 09 Oct 2006 15:48
- 21102 of 27111
alan one thing you can be sure of is if there is a contract signed by the egm they will get it out asap to move the s/price far away from 0.80 so there is a chance of a full take up,you are right re the prospectus all known buisness must be dis-closed in this document at the time of writing.
greekman
- 09 Oct 2006 15:54
- 21103 of 27111
Someone a while back mentioned, biodegradable coffins.
Anyone know how many there are on Stanelco's board.
Sorry mind wandering again.
hewittalan6
- 09 Oct 2006 15:55
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sellsell,
I agree, we have been waiting too long and I am disgusted with the management of old for the mess we got in.
I wish I could be more forthcoming, but I cannot. I just have absolute conviction, based on research, that patience will be rewarded.
Having said that I have been consistant in saying not to buy these unless you have researched the current position fully, as I would not give anyone it as a tip. I kept my powder dry for quite a long time and I have been busy upping my stake over the last week or so, because i still believe, and I wanted my average down.
I really cannot say why i am confident. i just am.
Research is king.
Alan