bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
Tonyrelaxes
- 10 Oct 2006 09:17
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AgeoR could be among "certain other investors" who have already put up 11m.
Alan. Correct, not being Directors we do not have to be told this.
Stockdog. Definitly a key question but not one we can force the directors to answer at the EGM.
The vote at the EGM could, in theory, scupper the fundraising but we cannot make our own decision to put money up based on what we hear at the EGM. Applications close 5 days before the EGM. By which time our cheques will have cleared!
Although the EGM may be a discussion forum with the Board (unless the unlikely event of the Chairman not allowing this as it being outside the Agenda) what we hear cannot alter our decision.
greekman
- 10 Oct 2006 09:38
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Woodie,
Re My post 21117. Re...Do shorters have to close, or is their position extended by the amount of the dilution any one know.
This sentence was a cut/paste from a previous post (21108). I was just answering the question. Surely a dilution has no effect whatsoever on a shorters position re closing an already existing position. As to the additional shares, I fully agree they have the same rights as everyone else. I think we were at cross purposes.
Cheers Greek.
garyble
- 10 Oct 2006 09:46
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The potential for another CC is a big concern. Also, the fact that SEO appear to have got themselves into this particular corner is unbelievable.
With Sphere consuming 80% of Biotec's production, it doesn't leave much for other commitments.
Oblo, the mention of the unaccounted 8.6m should actually be 7.2m. The net proceeds is 14.4m of which 7.2m is already earmarked for at least 2 MMPs @ 2.8m each plus 1.6m Biotec payment. There is also the cash burn to consider, which currently runs at ~300k per month. I'd say they'd look at a year's worth: 3.6m. So I'd doesn't look like they've over-egged it at all to me, especially if they decide to build at least 3 MMPs.
WOODIE
- 10 Oct 2006 10:17
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greekman re the above post yes we were at cross purposes sorry for mis-understanding
bosley
- 10 Oct 2006 10:32
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garyble, agree with you totally re. seo getting themselves into this situation where it appears that they are banking on a legal interpretation of a clause in the jv with sphere rather than something crystal clear. it also appears that they are gambling on sphere/biotec not being prepared to take it to arbitration. it doesn't strike as the best way to "do" business especially when you are months away from going bang.
also, the rns stating that the fund raising was nearly completed. what a crock of shit!! the fund raising is nowhere near being completed. the fund raising could fall flat on its face if shareholders decide to not take up the open offer; that's a million miles from being completed.
greekman
- 10 Oct 2006 10:34
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Woodie,
No problem whatsoever.
greekman
- 10 Oct 2006 10:50
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With a spread now of over 10% no wonder no one is tempted to buy.
I wonder how many have sold, just to get sufficient cash to buy their alloted number of shares at .8p.
Makes sense if you don't have any spare cash or don't wish to get in cash deeper.
robinhood
- 10 Oct 2006 11:09
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greekman- if u sell now you will not get allotted shares entitlement
alfalfa
- 10 Oct 2006 11:12
- 21155 of 27111
Apologies if I've missed the info, but does anyone know the Record Date for determining one's entitlement to the 3 for 5 offer ?
Thanks.
Alfa.
dawall
- 10 Oct 2006 11:21
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alfalfa I was told by Hargreaves Lansdown end of today
garyble
- 10 Oct 2006 11:34
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Robinhood,
Surely if one had a million shares and no cash, one could sell say 400k shares and take up the offer of 360k shares at 0.8p.
Bosley,
If they already have 1.35bn {11m} firm placing and 600m on open offer, IF the open offer is not taken up does that affect the firm placing?
alfalfa
- 10 Oct 2006 11:35
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Thanks dawall.
Tonyrelaxes
- 10 Oct 2006 11:58
- 21159 of 27111
Alfalfa/dawall
Expected timetable section of the RNS says "Record Date for the Open Offer -- close of dealings on 6 October"
If the RNS is correct it was last friday, not today.
robinhood
- 10 Oct 2006 12:01
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funny that... 1 million shares a year ago wud have been worth a bit of money. Today u can almost buy them within ISA allowance of tax year 06/07
Haystack
- 10 Oct 2006 12:11
- 21161 of 27111
What will happen of the SP goes below the offer price over the next few days as it my well do? Who will take it up then?
alfalfa
- 10 Oct 2006 12:16
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Tony - yes I've finally found the date. Thanks.
Alfa.
bosley
- 10 Oct 2006 12:21
- 21163 of 27111
garyble
"
Shareholders should be aware that if the Resolutions to be proposed at the EGM
are not passed and Admission does not take place, the net proceeds of the Issue
will not be received by the Company. If Admission does not take place, the
Company's cash requirements would be likely to exceed the amount available under
its existing overdraft facility with Barclays Bank PLC by the end of November
2006 and, in any event, this facility would be subject to immediate review and
potential withdrawal. In addition, under the terms of the current funding
granted to the Company, certain lenders have the right to demand immediate
repayment of outstanding amounts of 0.9m due by the end of November 2006, which
the Company would not be in a position to repay.
The Board considers that, in this scenario, they would seek to agree new
facilities with an appropriate lender and/or seek alternative means of funding,
such as convertible loans, asset-based finance or supplier financing. However,
the Board believes that any such facilities or loans, on the assumption that
such facilities or loans could be agreed, would be on significantly restrictive
terms and may necessitate the Group undertaking to effect certain actions and
grant certain rights to the lenders. In these circumstances, the Board believes
that the Group would not be able to continue the development of its intellectual
property portfolio to commercialisation in a manner in which would allow the
Group to retain all of its key staff and intellectual property rights. The Board
consequently believes that any such arrangements would not be in the best
interests of Shareholders. Unless funds are received pursuant to the Issue or
unless the Company obtains further funding, there is a material risk that the
Company will not be able to meet its debts as they fall due and will become
insolvent."
that is the impression i get.
jimward9
- 10 Oct 2006 12:22
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I think its good of SEO to let private investors in on part of this offer.
How many times have you been part of a company that have needed more cash and they only go to institutions and left the small invester out.
Thank you SEO i will be taking my allocation up.
G D Potts
- 10 Oct 2006 12:30
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Well if you can't get institutions to buy your shares then who else do you have top turn to Jimward? Exactly - YOU. I wouldnt say its good of them id say its desperate - if you have any sense then dont take up any and leave the boat that sunk a long time ago.
Tonyrelaxes
- 10 Oct 2006 12:43
- 21166 of 27111
Small point.
Comparing SP of 0.8p and Offer price of 0.8p don't forget dealing costs. There are none if you buy under the offer.