niceonecyril
- 04 Apr 2009 08:30
halifax
- 08 Jun 2012 13:58
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Harry isn't the real underlying problem that Baghdad is afraid if they allow the Kurds to export oil they (the Kurds) will declare independence.However they will probably do that anyway as they become more and more frustrated.Whether this would result in a civil war is the big question.
cynic
- 08 Jun 2012 14:08
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given that today's iraq is an artificially constructed entity, it is an interesting question as to whether a conflict between kurdistan and mesopotamia (iraq) would constitute a civil war
halifax
- 08 Jun 2012 14:14
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cynic please don't "nitpick" with the exception of the obvious countries like Egypt most of the other "sandcastles" did not exist a century ago, don't bury your head in the sand and just recognise the way things are possibly going in Iraq.
cynic
- 08 Jun 2012 14:41
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jordan? iran? syria? lebanon? ....... i may be wrong, but i think it is iraq (and israel) that is the odd one out
anyway, will there be some sort of prolonged punch-up?
i guess much will depend on which external power pulls the most strings
halifax
- 08 Jun 2012 16:29
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cynic you omitted one of the most important Saudi Arabia founded in 1932. most of the others became independant after the french and british pulled out at the end of the second world war.
halifax
- 08 Jun 2012 16:36
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there is a suggestion that france may need to go to the IMF for a loan which would mean the british may have to help finance french workers pensions as they retire at 60, DC better be careful about our contributions to the IMF.
cynic
- 08 Jun 2012 16:40
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saudi, an agglomeration of assorted bedouin tribes, is something of an oddity as is uae ...... if it were not for oil, both would still be populated by nomadic tent-dwellers with pearl diving, fishing and a bit of short-sea trading being the primary occupations of those in the small coastal settlements - or possibly piracy!
rekirkham
- 11 Jun 2012 09:28
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At the moment as Kurdistan are still fulfilling their own oil and gas requirements,
there is no urgency to sort out exports.
Once local requirements satisfied, the pressure will be on to export.
Perhaps this will happen by end of 2012 ?, and both Kurds and Iraqies should want
foreign currency.
Can the Kurds not just bye pass Central Govt. as they have the pipeline I think.
Would the Central Govt. invade Kurdistan = probably not, as long as Kurdistan pay
something to Cent. Govt.
All will be well eventually = What do you think
cynic
- 11 Jun 2012 10:48
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i agree though there will be much sabre-rattling along the way
required field
- 11 Jun 2012 10:58
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When the oil does start pumping, Iraq and Kurdistan will make a fortune!....and will be able at long last to build those badly needed hospitals, schools, and repair the damaged infrastructure.....
mnamreh
- 11 Jun 2012 11:08
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cynic
- 11 Jun 2012 11:14
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oh yawn yawn yawn .... don't be such a pratt or just join the gaza thread
mnamreh
- 11 Jun 2012 11:18
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required field
- 11 Jun 2012 11:19
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I did not agree with the Iraq invasion at that time....Saddam Hussain could have been dealt with in a better way......destroying everything was stupid and just makes enemies of the local population.....a country like Iraq....how shall I put it need a good dictator...(if there is such a word) to keep everybody in line as so to speak...throughout history, Iraq and Mesopotamia has been a troubled place but also a prosperous place at times when the right person has governed it...they need a good leader to emerge that will be fair to all...perhaps one day such a man or woman will come along....
cynic
- 11 Jun 2012 11:50
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i believe it's either, though i learnt that for some reason it was rhyming for pratt&witney, though i know not why ..... and neither do i pretend to be a pedagogue of any kind, let alone about m/e or other byzantine politics
mnamreh
- 11 Jun 2012 12:22
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cynic
- 11 Jun 2012 13:22
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nor even a pederast :-)
Balerboy
- 11 Jun 2012 14:10
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where's that bloody dictionary........AGAIN.,.
rekirkham
- 11 Jun 2012 14:12
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You are all acting rather ignominiously
cynic
- 11 Jun 2012 14:24
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poor old Emu (aka BB) will be breaking out in a cold sweat soon with all these new words to learn :-))