goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Haystack
- 09 Feb 2013 15:36
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Clegg's wife's family live in northern Spain.
cynic
- 09 Feb 2013 15:42
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Fred - it is YOU who say it was a Pyrrhic victory, which rather indicates that you have no idea what it means .... however, the extent and reality of any "victory" will only be possible to judge once the disreputable mob in the eu parliament have had a hack and kick about, and ultimately voted ..... until that time, only the empty vessels will see fit to make much deprecatory noise
Fred1new
- 09 Feb 2013 16:12
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Cynic,
As per usual a prat like remark which one is coming to expect from you.
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Analyse, what he might gain against what he has probably lost.
Cameron and those of his ilk are as having to to fall back on falsities. (Pity it wasn't their swords.) Burt the pattern of behaviour is now very common with this U-turn cabinet, who are making hollow policies seemingly on the hoof in attempts to appear populist, but appealing more more to a minority of the country. Short term gain for long term loss.
Notice how some preach "democracy" to others, but when is comes to the secret ballot, which in previous times "demanded" no prefer coercion.
This moral codes of this group of spine less "old boys" stinks more and more.
Haystack
- 09 Feb 2013 16:23
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What on earth did that all mean?
cynic
- 09 Feb 2013 16:23
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typical empty vessel noise from fred; all huff and puff and anti anything and everything the present government might have achieved - or not as the case may be .... and this from the champion democrat who can't be bothered to cast a vote, thereby believing he has retained his right to be universally disparaging and destructive.
if fred is so damn clever with at least a good percentage of right answers, why doesn't he stand for at least his parish council, so he can be publicly judged?
skinny
- 09 Feb 2013 16:27
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Who is 'Burt the pattern' ?
Excellent win for Scotland btw.
doodlebug4
- 09 Feb 2013 17:04
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My God, Scotland won! What next? Time to crack open a bottle of something nice.
Fred1new
- 09 Feb 2013 17:04
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Hays and Cynic,
Two ignoramuses clubbing together in search of their brain.
The above is praising both of you two much.
Look at the person, rather responding as children in the school yard.
You know the tories are doomed in the next election. Doomed!
So split, and concentrating on outdated economics they won't get any support.
Even Aschroft that little islander is wishing he had supported the "Party" with its intellectually impoverish leadership.
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Back to something more important.
Wales beating France.
I hope.
cynic
- 09 Feb 2013 18:21
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you clearly fancy yourself as brain of britain, or at least infinitely superior to us poor plebs .... so did you consider that the labour party made such a good fist of things that they should have been re-elected? ..... clearly not, or did you just feel it was really far too infra dig to go to cast your vote?
while the coalition may lack outstanding personalities, as most assuredly does the party opposite, the inheritance was always going to be a poisoned chalice .... i think the policy of austerity, nasty medicine as it might be, was absolutely the right course if disaster was to be averted ..... the labour party's idea of dribbling the medicine would never have brought the required result, and i think (can't prove) that such a course would have been truly horrible ..... both france and germany like to pretend that they are not in a terrible mess, when clearly the truth is otherwise.
with regard to the latest eu negotiations, only time will tell whether or not the perpetually increasing eu budget has at long last been halted ..... certainly the labour party never had the courage or perhaps intent even to grasp that nettle ..... of course the real sub-plot is to set the scenario for a referendum (good job says i) on whether or not uk should remain within eu .... for myself, i am currently ambivalent on the issue, but i shall listen to sides and then make up my mind and VOTE!
Fred1new
- 09 Feb 2013 20:22
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Cynic,
First comment,
No. I recognise how mediocre my intelligence is when compare with many, even many in, or associated with the coalition party and also recognise the difficulty in "governing".
However, I dislike their deceit and smugness.
I also recognise rubbish when I see it and your remarks often fit into that category.
Possibly, what you write is an attempt to be irritating, but even then, sometimes that which you write can be pertinent.
Unfortunately, the latter is not often enough and may be due to the effect of ageing process.
I think the economy of Europe and Britain have problems, but I think or guess that the EU will come out of "recession" quicker than the UK.
If my reading is correct so do the markets.
Also, the steps taken by Brown at the end of his period in office appeared to be correct and led to sensible dialogue of the "problems".
Isolation and withdrawal, although tolerable, is often not the best or sensible way to re-solving problems
I suggest you think of the consequence of the fixing of finances for a 5-7 year period.
(The policies you seem to be supporting, or advocating seem to be attempting to protect the finances of a small group of society. If you disagree, think about it and if you still disagree, you are entitled to your opinion, as am I.)
The rest of your comments you can go to the same pub as Tanker and discuss.
Back to my Peppered Steak, Ratatouille, and Cherry and Cherry Strudel washed down with Plonk and followed by Port and Brandy in the arms of my wife and daughters, if they can catch me,
Bugger. Something is burning,
mykai
- 10 Feb 2013 08:50
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anyne haveing probs logging into A D V F N board
cynic
- 10 Feb 2013 09:03
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i disagree with nearly all you write; but at least i go to the poll booth instead of just standing on the side-lines bitching and whining about the present crew, while being insufficiently impressed by the previous mob to support them ..... had labour come back into power, you would no doubt now be berating them for following whatever course they thought best
the enfranchised public votes gov't both in and out ..... if you can't be bothered to get off your arse to do so, then you have no right to complain about the complexion and actions of those in power ..... had you and other non-voters not been so prissy or lazy or whatever, then it is not impossible that you would now have a labour gov't - but not necessarily of course ..... in effect, you have now got what you wished for ..... as in life, deal with the hand you have been dealt and get on with it, just as i would had we now got the milliband mob
would i move abroad? ..... no, but assuredly i would manage my financial and business affairs as best as possible within the framework permitted
dreamcatcher
- 10 Feb 2013 09:13
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We are in the age of the postal vote now,you do not even have to go to a pole station.
cynic
- 10 Feb 2013 09:17
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MrT says, "so even those dirty, skiving, non-tax-paying immigrants have the vote now - absolutely disgraceful!"
skinny
- 10 Feb 2013 09:46
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optomistic
- 10 Feb 2013 10:07
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Fred1new
- 10 Feb 2013 13:48
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"would i move abroad? ..... no,"
Seems a pity!
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"but assuredly i would manage my financial and business affairs as best as possible within the framework permitted"
Seem to recall the Mafia and Berlusconi said something like that!
Fred1new
- 10 Feb 2013 13:50
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TANKER
- 10 Feb 2013 14:16
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haystack . cleggs wife family are behind the wind farms and build the useless wind turbines .
a few weeks back i posted that i would never eat meat from ireland well you all
know why now i could not spell out why irish meat factorys are unsafe worse than
india .
eating horse will give you the trots if a race horse then the runs
cynic
- 10 Feb 2013 14:23
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fred - i cannot believe even you are such an arsehole as to neglect look after your finances and assets .... if you do so neglect, then your children (and wife) will not have much polite to say about you.
so you think it's a pity that i would not move abroad? ..... is that so you could gripe and whinge about people who choose to do so to minimise their taxes? ..... btw, i don't recollect that either mafia or berlusconi have a reputation let alone record of working within the permitted framework, but no doubt you know differently (because you know it all)
i would not move abroad because, inter alia, (a) taxes in most other countries (e.g. france) are much nastier than in uk, and (b) those countries that do have a benevolent tax regime (e.g. switzerland, gibraltar or even channel islands) have little appeal to me - and that assumes acceptance as a resident there in the first place