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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


Tonyrelaxes - 10 Oct 2006 12:43 - 21166 of 27111

Small point.
Comparing SP of 0.8p and Offer price of 0.8p don't forget dealing costs. There are none if you buy under the offer.

stockdog - 10 Oct 2006 12:48 - 21167 of 27111

Tonyrelaxes - If the EGM votes against the motions, our money will have to be refunded, I assume, like any conditional application to a fund-raising if the conditions aren't met.

Age Of Reason may or may not be part of the Firm Placing, but they also have rights under the Open Offer on the same 3 for 5 basis as everyone else. I think it is highly material given the beneficial interest of their shares on both counts - Firm Placee and Open Offer intentions.

I will email SEO and ask this now. I may even ask FSA what their opinion on fair disclosure is on this issue.

Jimward - agree, wish it was a higher proportion available to us to reduce the dilution further to nearer, say, 25% only. Can't do the maths quick enough to work out what proportion of the 2.075bn shares whould need to be on Open Offer for that level of diultion. No doubt someone can, as an academic if fruitless point.

sd

jimward9 - 10 Oct 2006 12:49 - 21168 of 27111

Issue: Open Offer

Ratio: 3 for 5
Subscription price: 0.8p
IG Deadline: TBA
How will this effect your position?

Standard positions

On the ex date standard positions will have a position in the rights booked onto the account at the above ratio at a level of 0. These rights are NOT tradable in the market.

Clients who are long will have the option to:

To do nothing. The entitlement will lapse.
To take up the entitlement.
A decision must be made by the IG deadline.

The default is to lapse the entitlement.

Clients who are short will have the option to:

To run to expiry and risk being taken up against.

Positions with Stops:

Positions with stops will have their positions closed based on the close of business price on the 09 October 2006. A new position will be opened at an adjusted level and size to reflect the above terms. The monetary risk of the trade will remain the same.

Please note that the information provided is preliminary and could be subject to change.

G D Potts - 10 Oct 2006 12:49 - 21169 of 27111

do you hold SEO tony?

stockdog - 10 Oct 2006 12:59 - 21170 of 27111

Here it is:-

Dear Sir/Madam

I'm very pleased to see you are at last able to publish your plans for the long awaited fund-raising.

In deciding the merits of investing more money with your company, one question I have which I believe to be highly material is the intention of the Age of Reason trust. I know them to be a large (the single largest?) shareholder in SEO and I also understand that Mr Howard White one of your directors and/or his immediate family has a large beneficial interset in this trust. Surely this amounts to a director's interest and shareholders should know:-

a) Is the trust contemplating putting in more money under the Firm Placing, or the Placing?

b) is the trust intending to take up its rights under the Open Offer?

I am sure you are pretty busy on all fronts corporate at present, but I would sincerely appreciate your brief response to the above questions.

Many thanks.

Yours faithfully,

stockdog - 10 Oct 2006 13:01 - 21171 of 27111

Jimward

Although not a rights issue where the rights are independently tradable, am I not right that if you sell your shares post-6th October, the rights under the Open Offer attach to the new holder and you can fill in a form to say so prior to 5 days before the EGM?

sd

jimward9 - 10 Oct 2006 13:07 - 21172 of 27111

sd
don't know! anybody ?

aldwickk - 10 Oct 2006 13:11 - 21173 of 27111

Your Broker can sell your rights in the open market.

aldwickk - 10 Oct 2006 13:17 - 21174 of 27111

I think the rights issue is going to flop, unless there is news of contracts with cash flow not to far behind.

Haystack - 10 Oct 2006 13:20 - 21175 of 27111

Rights cannot always be traded in themselves. It depends on the detail of the issue.

jimward9 - 10 Oct 2006 13:33 - 21176 of 27111

After this placing SEO will have enough spare cash, to list in the USA!!!

Haystack - 10 Oct 2006 13:43 - 21177 of 27111

Or pay for costly litigation.

zscrooge - 10 Oct 2006 13:56 - 21178 of 27111

jimward9 - 10 Oct 2006 12:22 - 21164 of 21177
I think its good of SEO to let private investors in on part of this offer.

LOL!!

jimward9 - 10 Oct 2006 13:33 - 21176 of 21177
After this placing SEO will have enough spare cash, to list in the USA!!!

LOL again. Do you think the rules in the US which are more stringent than on AIM would allow SEO to list?

antofelli - 10 Oct 2006 13:57 - 21179 of 27111

The only certainity is that the funds raised will be well over what they stated to need..... why?

WOODIE - 10 Oct 2006 14:02 - 21180 of 27111

as you know i am not a shareholder in this company, what i feel is the very importent question that you should try and find out before you decide to invest more money is , the shares that have a FIRM COMMITMENT is there a get out clause i.e if the share price goes below 0.80 can they can withdraw,or regardless of the price they are commited to go ahead.

WOODIE - 10 Oct 2006 14:08 - 21181 of 27111

its not a rights issue

Proposed Firm Placing of 1,375,000,000 New Ordinary Shares and

Open Offer of 600,992,559 New Ordinary Shares at 0.8 pence per New Ordinary
Share, of which 148,278,000 New Ordinary Shares are being placed subject to
clawback to satisfy valid acceptances under the Open Offer

jimward9 - 10 Oct 2006 14:12 - 21182 of 27111

zscrooge
I would think SEO feel guilty that the share price dropped so much, so they gave holders the chance to average down and recover losses, which I belleve they will.

I do not know the rules for listing in the USA, I just stated it is possible, if they are building production in the states then why not.

soul traders - 10 Oct 2006 14:22 - 21183 of 27111

Stockdog,

FWIW, the breakdown of major shareholders, according to my online broker.

Stanelco PLC
Major Shareholders

Shares in issue: 996.3m 0.1p Ords
Major Shareholders Amount % Holding
Age of Reason Foundation 217,078,122 23.12
Richards & Appleby Ltd 73,371,681 7.82
Barclayshare Nominees Ltd 60,892,255 6.49
Waterhouse Nominees Ltd 35,969,831 3.83
L R Nominees Ltd 31,507,514 3.36
FMR CORP and Fidelity Int Ltd 29,348,700 3.11

Other Directors Amount % Holding
Philip Albert Lovegrove 4,577,083 0.488
Ian H Balchin 1,640,000 0.175



= Director


As I pointed out the last time I posted this breakdown, it appears that the only major institutional holder is Fidelity. The nominee accounts strike me as being those of PI's, not institutional custody, indicating that there has been a low take-up of SEO stock by investment or pension funds.

WDIK, just conjecture.

robinhood - 10 Oct 2006 14:36 - 21184 of 27111

jimward...seo will ONLY get shareholders sympathy if they can actually get some ORDERS in the book, cos if not the shareholders are well and truly f****d . Forget about the jam tomorrow as there will not be any bread left to put it on

greekman - 10 Oct 2006 14:38 - 21185 of 27111

Robinhood,
Not going to, all I said was "I wonder how many have sold, just to get sufficient cash to buy their alloted number of shares at .8p".
IE sell a certain number when sell price was .9p, use cash to buy alloted number at .8p. OK I appreciate the alloted number would be less, due to any sale (3 for 5 held at record date).
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