bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
alfalfa
- 11 Oct 2006 08:46
- 21220 of 27111
greekman - X trades are often done between closely-related parties, e.g. husband and wife, one fund to another within an institution's portfolio of OEICs or pension funds etc.
In the case of the former, they're not always massive lumps of stock but in the case of the latter, they can be.
Because it's a guaranteed transfer, there's no risk to the intermediary of being left holding a lump and so there is likely to be only a nominal charge made for the transaction, if any.
Not sure if this is any clearer.
Alfa.
pinnacle
- 11 Oct 2006 09:20
- 21221 of 27111
Times Rumour.
Sphere will make an offer for Stanelco once financing is in place!
Quite possible as Age of Reason may NOT have the block in the new set-up AND we do not know at this time how much of the new share capital Sphere may have bought!!
This would work for Sphere - not us private shareholders.
Also could have already being agreed behind the scenes so as to enable the contracts to proceed.
The question is how Much?
Me thinks max 5p - sadly.
dawall
- 11 Oct 2006 09:27
- 21222 of 27111
Alan post 21215 that was exactly my thought but then I discarded at getting down the too hopeful or optimistic line!
hewittalan6
- 11 Oct 2006 09:33
- 21223 of 27111
It was only a thought, dawall. No basis in any facts, its just I could not see the point in underwriting a 15m placing where 11m is accounted for and over 1m is costs, especially when half of it appears to be desirable, but not critical. It simply doesn't add up.
Alan
robinhood
- 11 Oct 2006 09:38
- 21224 of 27111
Have not seen the article , but could it be that Sphere may want to buy SEO's Biotec share?
pinnacle
- 11 Oct 2006 09:52
- 21225 of 27111
If there is no biotec then there is no Stanelco!!
Sphere will want all of Stanelco as agreements and patents are in their name.
This is rumoured to happen AFTER the financing and before the MMF's get into production.
IF they get into production Sphere would have to pay more - so let's hope that happens.
greekman
- 11 Oct 2006 10:19
- 21226 of 27111
Alfalfa,
Yes, it's much clearer now. Like most things when simply explained, it makes sense. Ta much.
Greek.
Tonyrelaxes
- 11 Oct 2006 10:22
- 21227 of 27111
I have always comforted myself that the size of AgeofR. and Directors holdings were an effective takeover block. And they have a greater insight (sic) into the real worth of the company and it's prospects.
This percentage holding will be reduced by 46% or 66%, unless they are part of the Firm Placing, and removes that blocking minority status.
alfalfa
- 11 Oct 2006 10:27
- 21228 of 27111
Tony - That reduction of holding by AoR / Directors can of course be lessened if they subscribe for their entitlement and especially if, as you say, they have already subscribed as part of the "Firm Placing".
Tonyrelaxes
- 11 Oct 2006 10:43
- 21229 of 27111
Alf
Even if they take up the entitlement their holding will be diluted be 46%. AoR then will only have a holding of around 13%. Considerably less if thay do not take up.
Unless, as we say, they are part of the Firm Placing and already paid.
Tonyrelaxes
- 11 Oct 2006 10:47
- 21230 of 27111
The Prospectus should be on our doormats tomorrow morning.
That will keep me quiet for a good while!
ths
- 11 Oct 2006 10:47
- 21231 of 27111
You would think that the control issue had already been addresses by AoR/Directors. Seems to me this particular financing deal we ended up with was a result of them not wanting to give up more control. Thats seems to be alluded to in the financing release.
alfalfa
- 11 Oct 2006 10:48
- 21232 of 27111
Agreed, Tony.
Alfa.
hewittalan6
- 11 Oct 2006 10:51
- 21233 of 27111
Would Age Of Reason have to issue a statement of intention if it was behind the firm offer and its interest in the company was to rise???
The gentleman behind A of R apparantly is known for buying companies on the cheap, turning them around and making a quick buck.
Alan
Tonyrelaxes
- 11 Oct 2006 10:56
- 21234 of 27111
Alan - "turning them round" Hmmm
antofelli
- 11 Oct 2006 10:58
- 21235 of 27111
If the fund rising has been done at a cheap price must be a reason. About a month ago the last one was at 8p. ....probably the shorter`s job has helped someone to jump on board or to increase the initial stake at a very discounted price.... Plus still can`t work out why we are in October and the board is thinking to cover (with the fund raised) the Biotec payment wich will be due in June next year. Is like assuming that from now until June Stanelco will not generate any cash to make that payment.
hewittalan6
- 11 Oct 2006 11:01
- 21236 of 27111
Hmmm indeed.
I do not know what they do, be they asset strippers or superb management types, but someone told me that is how he came by his brass.
the question is though, whether they would be bound by the disclosure rules that they had taken a large amount of the firm placing and gone over the 29% mark.
I think that is the amount by which you have to state your intentions to the market, but no doubt someone will correct me.
Alan
Tonyrelaxes
- 11 Oct 2006 11:02
- 21237 of 27111
I would dearly like to know AoR's intentions regarding the Entitlement Offer and the Firm Placing but there is no obligation on either them or our Board to tell us.
We can find out after when the updated Share Register is available for inspection.
Sharesure
- 11 Oct 2006 11:02
- 21238 of 27111
antofelli, good point. Has anyone any idea what the RNS is today? There is an N alongside SEO on my watch list but nothing when I search for the RNS on the quote page?
hewittalan6
- 11 Oct 2006 11:03
- 21239 of 27111
Sharesure,
Its the MAM system confused with another SEO (again).