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Jessops (JSP)     

bradleym - 12 Jan 2005 19:14

After a disappointing start to its float, things are starting to pick up. Since the release of results in December, the shares have steadily increased from 147p to 161p.

The group has a strong and fast growing market share and should perform well.

fliper - 28 Mar 2007 18:28 - 214 of 297

Buy order set at 7p .

cynic - 28 Mar 2007 19:01 - 215 of 297

is that BUY or GOODBYE

hangon - 29 Mar 2007 10:17 - 216 of 297

"...Chris Langley, Chief Executive commented:


'Jessops is experiencing unusually tough trading conditions, driven by severe...etc..."

Surely this market condition was obvious a year ago?
As new cameras replace old, the market price of the new matches, or even undercuts the old model (list)...so the old model has to be discounted to shift 'em. Problem is that the new model removes some of the defects in the earlier version, such as battery life, zoom range, screen size etc - so many punters feel the new model is the better camera - so the old-model is destined for deep discount.
This situation has been on-going as manufacturers get to grips with what is possible in miniaturisation. Gone are the days of aspiring to a brand of camera and building a system of dedicated lenses, flash etc....today it's almost always all-in-one and then wait for the next model.

In that scenario JSP really needs to have a USP - but apart from good shops and staff they haven't - so the staff are having to compete on price with internet shops. I think they need to offer basic club-facilities for aspiring photographers with competitions and so on. Then get some OWN-branded cameras which they can sell and even provide an up-date route, or in the wake of farepak - maybe a Xmas saving club with a release of a new model just prior tpo the Xmas festivities - JSP would be in a good position to get a bulk discount and if this was sucessful they could try a second club for the summer-holiday snapper.
But I'm wary that the execs are old-school photographers and not sufficiently connected to this new digital-age which is seeing low-res acceptable from phones, although they have a good line in printing booths.

Cynic was right, as an Investment - but what are yr thoughts at this new sp-level(sub 18p)...bearing in mind we know the dividend has gone?

cynic - 29 Mar 2007 10:28 - 217 of 297

certainly not to buy ..... there's a pretty strong argument to bite the bullet at and sell, though with end of the tax year only a week away, your CGT posiiton may determine whether to do so now or in 10 days time ..... probably too risky to short at this stage, though might be worthwhile with a senisble stop-loss in place

hangon - 30 Mar 2007 15:02 - 218 of 297

Well, cynic I've sold - never let the tax get in the way of a sensible investment decision ....this was a weak buy ( when I did at 53p) and so I've only myself to blame now at 15p...still it hurts -FOR- I could have bought one of JSP's shiny digital cameras for the loss - several -
Really irks when a Co fouls up this much - I understand there is nigh-on 53m of debt and little prospect of sufficient sales to turn a profit - so it seems to me that the begging-bowl could come out, just to pay the interest charges.
It's not good...and one wonders what the Full Market Regulators ( Yes!), were doing allowing such a poor investment to be listed so highly in the first place...maybe 15p (not 1.50) was nearer the mark....
Two execs have walked the plank...let's hope they never work again.
Grr - severely browned off!
++all IMHO - DYOR etc...++

cynic - 30 Mar 2007 15:07 - 219 of 297

what annoys me is that all too often the execs still walk away with very fat wallets and pensions ...... Eric Nicoli is a good example of a CEO who has screwed up totally twice and walked away fortunes richer and Tiphook (many years ago) was a case of blatant abuse by the directors

scotinvestor - 30 Mar 2007 15:22 - 220 of 297

dont mention marconi..................lord simpson should be in jail...........and he lost more than 10,000 jobs on top of busting the company almost overnight

hangon - 03 Apr 2007 10:46 - 221 of 297

Hate to disagree, esp. since I lotalot on Marconi - but LS was only the instigator...admittedly he did the Deed over several years, but he was encouraged by City types who (let's not forget) ..Make money on the way Up as well as Down. The City (it is rumoured) wanted to see ( GEC as then) become an international player to make them lots of money - and why not find a sap to spend the fortune Lord Weinstock had amassed?
Well LS spent like there was no tomorrow, except he and his like didn't tell retail investors that for every 1, they were getting barely 20p (Unlike Lord Weinstock who got six beans in exchange for five).... as long as the Telco bubble was inflated no-one looked...too hard
Then it all fell down and some respectable investments fell out also - but Marconi was seen in its true light - a company with masses of debt, lots of outgoings (wages, rent etc) and no sales potential and er little asset-value. Hence the debt for equity grab by the Banks.
I agree that LS should be in jail for he was able to stop the madness - but then so were many of his ilk =the exec. hangers-on at Marconi who now have spread themselves into other FTSE companies (at increased salaries no doubt) - look at the historic jobs of many of Invensys Execs - I say no more; but it surprises me that no-one creates a web-site of past deeds so that crooks, rapists, murderers (and failed execs) can't be named, shamed and kept away from my other investments....
Needless to say my holding in ISYS is quite small since I made the connection...I bought at 13p, sold at about 20p (prior to consolidation) so managed to make something out of their reincarnation....ISYS was in doggy-do for some time but I'm not able to track the movement of GEC/Marconi Execs - but it looks a really good company to me and I'm no fool, am I?

JSP is potentially another debt-for-equity swap - if the Banks think they can run a high-street photo-shop. The real profit comes from prints and for that a kiosk is about as much as you need, maybe at the main-line railway station. If national advertising is what pulls in punters....why bother with an expensive shop? Make the price attractive, decent web-presence (this is a rarity - indeed I can't think of any company whose web-presence is better than: "so you make..."..and NO, I don't want yr emails...)..
However, JSP is my largest loss in five years, so maybe I'm losing my marbles - whatever tempted me to invest - no I still don't know.....maybe that poster was right - 7p? However, by then it will be obviously heading for insolvency.....a shame for it was a well-run family business operating from an ex-railway station in Leicester (the line closed in 1890, but Daguerre missed it!)...but the flotation was a dog and really should never have been launched in its condition, esp. with digital cameras coming in to wreck their historic pitch. It's a latter-day Dixons in reality...(investment-wise).....yet I still wish their staff well, but execs not.

Ah well.
The reason Execs walk briskly is that remaining execs are paying for "silence". ?The whole company is probably rotten and they want to keep the lid on it; hoping that overseas order will come in and the shipyard will prosper etc etc.

dave7010 - 04 Apr 2007 12:01 - 222 of 297

back on the way up, can see to be made.get in quick.

oilyrag - 05 Apr 2007 07:53 - 223 of 297

Sorry Dave, but how many shares will I need to make a 1.

TheMaster - 05 Apr 2007 08:52 - 224 of 297

Heard today that there is a bid for Jessops

cynic - 05 Apr 2007 09:08 - 225 of 297

on the tube? ..... in the local greasy spoon? ...... not impossible i guess, especially if they own any freehold properties

janetbennison - 05 Apr 2007 10:21 - 226 of 297

master - Can you tell me where you have heard about a possible bid?

TheMaster - 05 Apr 2007 10:26 - 227 of 297

Chatting to city traders on the west coast commuter train to London Bridge this morning

cynic - 05 Apr 2007 10:37 - 228 of 297

solid and reliable info then!
a bit unkind i know(lol) and certainly sp has shot up again this morning, but that might very well be bears closing their positions with significant profits.
old and valid adage is that one should never buy just on the hope of t/o .... far too dangerous especially with a flaky company like jessops

700202 - 05 Apr 2007 11:22 - 229 of 297

Gutted bought 20k @70p watched the drop bought back in 50k @ 12.5p sold at 16.5p to reduce my loss , but looks small profit after cassenove gave them a boost saying that the bad news may all be out and the brand has value, bought another 50k @17.5p so am holding 70k and they are looking better

cynic - 05 Apr 2007 11:27 - 230 of 297

count your fingers

hangon - 05 Apr 2007 12:51 - 231 of 297


Up 25% today - but that was from a low start...obviously somone want these shares.

Re a poor exec register.... "Shares" helps in this respect, being able to keep punters up-to-date but what we need is a dedicated web-site to cover such persons...might be a useful place for good execs to be recruited....anyone want to develop this?
I understand LS was given 2m as a reward - to further his pension pot. Tell that to our WW1/WWII brave war-pensioners, whose quality of life is dire!

700202 - 05 Apr 2007 14:02 - 232 of 297

cynic
what do you mean count your fingers ?

hangon - 06 Apr 2007 12:57 - 233 of 297

Brand has value, eh?
Well maybe from the consumers' viewpoint...it's nice to ses a familiar shop, all the stuff laid out, helpful staff...but then you get to the paying bit - and realise the same camera can be bought for 50 less, maybe including a larger memory card. No when you're paying 1000 for a camera this amount may not concern you, if you think the after-sales service is worth having....but I can't recall Jessops ever having a repair shop - OK they used to collect all the s/h cameras and give 'em a clean.
However, the modern camera is unlikely to fail (other than being dropped!). So what added-value do you get "after" the sale?
The JSP memory-prices are horific and even at their "half-price" they look expensive to me. Along with Woolworths, there is very little margin on the High Street....large shops need to be shifting stock - (whatever they sell) so the pattern really is supermarkets, aiming at the average bulk-purchase.

My local Tesco is nearer than Jessops - and has a reasonable range of cameras - not too many but probably those where the margins are best.

So what is a brand?
A brand is what is left when you strip out all the bits that you can get elsewhere.
Thus you can buy a calculator for 3 or you can go to a fancy shop and buy the same thing branded Ferrari - now unless you are a fool you must realise they are the same product. However, if it has a natty slide-cover that protects the display, or it alone has a stopwatch function, lap calculator etc then the branded calculator is "more" -it is bang-on for sports meetings etc. The fact that it is now four times (or ten times the price is of little concern - you are buying that something "extra" you believe the branded product will provide. In this case it is an extra calculation routine and some mechanical protection.
Now consider the Jessops brand....just what are you getting that you need for that extra money? In the days when watches needed a service, adjustment and care it made sense to buy from a local watchmaker, repairer - although I can never remember them making watches....but you couldn't send your watch anywhere else.....so you paid the price and each town had two so prices were kept in check.
I don't disagree that JSP has a brand....but that doesn't mean it has value....well not until it is supported by something....historic performance and service are Good - but most folk want the Here and Now.....and on that score JSP has nothing other than shops- and that is the very thing that pushes up prices as long as volumes remain low.
Digital cameras are commodities and most folk have them. I don't see JSP can return to good sales - they need to trim their overheads to the reducing volumes.........
"Count yr fingers"? - I wondered too - - perhaps he's suggesting wait a little while....
i.e. do we think the next RNS will be bumper profits?
....(Up a further 15% today, but still very low prices....this could get nasty IMHO. But I've been burned once.)
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