for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

Re anteofelli's post above - links here

http://www.packexpo.com/ve/32887/newsrelease_6370.html

http://www.packexpo.com/ve/32887/products.html


RF sealing is nothing new - I searched a while back and located patents dating from the 1920's. In this case the use appears to be for blister packs, not food packaging.

Oblo, Anto,
I am sure we had this debate several million posts back. I acnnot remember how it started or who answered it, but I dimly recall that GS differentiates itself by not requiring a PE layer or adhesive, which I think the other RF machines do.
I cannot be certain of this, but it was definitely debated and there were considerable differences.
I am not as technical as many on here, and do not know if this is sufficient to uphold a patent claim, but it was deemed sufficient for the other RF machines to be considered not a great opposition as the benefits of GS revolve around those differences.
May be wrong and I can't find what I was looking for,
Alan

Hi all PM reckons that this is low tech RF sealing used to seal clamshell and blister packs,not in competition with greenseal.

Morning, OB,

I for one don't ignore patents or discusions abut them, but I will readily admit to reading several patents in depth, and understanding about 1 word in 3 (an exageration but I am sure you know what I mean).
Because of this and knowing how vital patent are I have perused every posting on this thread re SEO,s patents.
The problem is with so many posters putting their differing interpreations of said patents, due to my lack of patent knowledge I am not much clearer.
I have apreciated your imput re this but I am sure you would be the first to admit, we would be fools to take any posts such as patent discussions as gospel.
That is not to say I have doubted the validity of contents off said posts, it's just that I don't know. The above was a reply to a post that appears to have disapeared from my screen.
Cheers Greek.

Alan, dont think there is any debate - I did alter my post about a minute after posting it, so you may have seen the unedited version which I changed after I had taken a closer look at the SCA Consumer machines.

As for whether SEO gets any patents to protect it on the RF front - the jurys still out on that one (see my post from a day or two ago) as the fact is, they haven't thus far.

I dont know who 'deemed it sufficient for the other RF machines to be considered not a great opposition' as you say , but whoever it was it will be the Patent Office and /or courts who will decide that. If the difference from previous patents is that it doesn't require a PE layer or adhesive, then the relevant patent giving protection would relate to the process and the Patent Office will decide whether the process is novel - i.e. nobody thought of doing it in the past!

Alan/greek,

Apologies - I did alter my post, but did it quickly after posting it and didn't think there was time for it to have been read!

The original post basically said SCA Consumer have got a working machine, but I then thought that was misleading because it doesn't appear on the face of it (and IMO!) to presnt any problem to SEO. I also said that Patent Matters are avoided on this BB and any posts relating to patents are usually ignored.

Apologies again - I didn't think anyone read my posts anyway - and certainly not that quickly!!

Apologies, Oblo,
When i said it was deemed sufficient, what I should have put was that the concensus on here was that it was different enough that even without a patent, it was not really competition!!
I know nothing of patent law, other than it is expensive and lengthy. As you say though, it is the novel bit that is important. SEO have done RF sealing for years as well. Unfortunately, patenting takes so long, and challenges even longer, that if we wait for legal clarity before investing, we will all be dead and buried and have to ask our will executors to do it for us!!!
Its all part of the rich tapestry of risk and reward in the end.
Alan

OB,
No problem, you must be more popular than you think.
Greek.

'Morning all

Right, I'm bailing out. All those sells are making me really nervous!

lol

The oily one

Anyone received prospectus yet from TD Waterhouse re shareoffer?

robin
No.
Nothing from TDW where I have 4 different accounts holding SEO shares.
Also nothing in the post directly to us at home to cover both our 'own name' shareholdings.

Tony,
You will have to liquidise your holding to cover the compensation claim from your postman for the hernia he gets delivering that lot!!!

Oily, was that "seals "or "sells "making you nervous?

Wish I had taken notice of all those bashers over the last few months, I would'nt have to put up with this excitement, which puts a strain on the heart !!!
Bye the way, where have they crawled off to ????

Dave

So, have some holders received their Prospectus and Application Forms?

Barclays, No.

Hargreaves Lansdown, AP Form Yes, Prospectus No.

I have received my Application form from 0800.

IWeb-no

Hoodless Brennan-AP yes, Prospectus, no

Halifax account - no

Alan, Oblo Thanks