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William Hill (WMH)     

rolling - 04 Nov 2003 14:05

Where do you think they will go to or should i sell now

jimmy b - 09 Jan 2014 16:01 - 215 of 472

Betfair [LON:BET] managed to escape the Barclays chop

That's because they have no shops it's all online therefore no machines ( the crack cocaine of gambling as Miliband put it) and that is all this is about ..

Makes me laugh ,you can loose large amounts anywhere ,maybe Ed should come and have a look at my trading account today .

cynic - 09 Jan 2014 16:23 - 216 of 472

sorry to hear that young jimmy me lad ...... i've had rather a good day by chance :-)

jimmy b - 09 Jan 2014 16:26 - 217 of 472

Not bad all round cynic ,, just WMH was nicely in profit and was intending to hold well in to this year,, now teetering on the edge of a stop loss ,still in for now..

cynic - 09 Jan 2014 16:43 - 218 of 472

ah .... i effectively don't do stop losses as they're a real pain when sp spikes

goldfinger - 09 Jan 2014 16:48 - 219 of 472

Certainly spikey this week. That why i use ATR oscillator on charts. Shows daily volatility. Although not meant for this.

Only use stops for trailing SP.

jimmy b - 09 Jan 2014 17:10 - 220 of 472

Dangerous game that cynic .

I'm actually surprised this didn't bounce back a bit better.

goldfinger - 10 Jan 2014 03:48 - 221 of 472

William Hill was down more than 7 per cent to 371.1p, while Rank Group, whose Grosvenor Casinos business uses FOBTs, fell by 1.6p to 135.4p.
Analyst Simon French at Panmure Gordon said the falls were an overreaction, given that Labour was defeated in a parliamentary vote on whether to give local authorities power to curb the number of fixed-odds terminals.
‘It is overdone,’ he said. ‘I don’t think the debate went that badly from the perspective of the betting companies, but the market will shop first and ask questions later.’

‘It [the share price fall] provides an attractive entry point to William Hill because it has a broader base of business, geographically and by channel.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/markets/article-2536778/Bookies-dealt-blow-fixed-odds-debate.html



goldfinger - 10 Jan 2014 07:55 - 222 of 472

Fingers crossed........

jimmy b - 10 Jan 2014 10:57 - 223 of 472

Bounce back ?? good entry point for a buy .

HARRYCAT - 10 Jan 2014 11:00 - 224 of 472

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skinny - 15 Jan 2014 14:58 - 225 of 472

Take your pick - update on Friday 17th.

Goodbody Hold 370.40 450.00 375.00 Downgrades

Nomura Buy 370.40 505.00 505.00 Retains

skinny - 17 Jan 2014 07:01 - 226 of 472

Trading Statement

Improved margin in Q4 with progress on key initiatives

17 January 2014

William Hill PLC (LSE: WMH) (William Hill or the Group) announces a trading update for the 13 weeks from 2 October 2013 to 31 December 2013 (Q4) and the unaudited 52 weeks to 31 December 2013 (full year). The reported comparator periods are the 14 weeks and 53 weeks ended 1 January 2013. For comparison purposes, 13 week and 52 week data are provided, for which the results relating to the week ending 1 January 2013 have been removed.

Ralph Topping, Chief Executive of William Hill, commented:

"Q4 proved a strong end to the year as we enjoyed continued momentum in Sportsbook with 38% more wagered in Q4 on a 13 week basis than last year. This demonstrates our competitive strength in Online ahead of the expected introduction of the Point of Consumption tax in December 2014. We made good progress on key initiatives in the quarter: improving our mobile gaming offer, rolling out the Eclipse gaming machine to over a third of our estate and continuing to enhance Australia's digital capabilities. It is also pleasing to see a turnaround in the profitability of our US business in our first full year of ownership."

Q4

Q4 saw strong underlying net revenue growth from sports betting with above average gross win margins in Retail over-the-counter (OTC) and strong wagering growth from Online Sportsbook. Online gaming net revenue growth rates improved through the period benefitting from improvements to mobile gaming and the Retail estate saw the ongoing roll-out of the Eclipse gaming machine.


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jimmy b - 17 Jan 2014 09:02 - 227 of 472

Well the bounce back didn't happen ,out for now .

goldfinger - 17 Jan 2014 09:05 - 228 of 472

I was out a few days back. Thought the meddling by MPs would mess this up.

jimmy b - 17 Jan 2014 09:16 - 229 of 472

It only hit my stop this morning GF ,but your right the threat hanging over possible removal of machines has killed it for now. Those gaming machines are a large percentage of revenue for retail outlets.

goldfinger - 17 Jan 2014 09:29 - 230 of 472

Yep 50% of revenue.

skinny - 17 Jan 2014 09:35 - 231 of 472

I'll stay for a bit longer and have had another dabble @364p

jimmy b - 17 Jan 2014 09:55 - 232 of 472

You could waiting for the World Cup skinny and i hate football!!

skinny - 17 Jan 2014 09:59 - 233 of 472

Yes - may not have been the smartest buy!

Chris Carson - 17 Jan 2014 10:10 - 234 of 472

I got out yesterday for nowt, back in @ 365.9 still think it's overdone and a knee jerk reaction, tin hat maybe for a while, we'll see :O)
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