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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

cynic - 23 May 2016 10:32 - 2150 of 12628

yes, and no doubt could have had a successful business as a painter and decorator - they're always in demand - and thus saved us all much grief

kurt waldheim of impeccable credentials was also austrian with a fascist background, as you will no doubt remember well


meanwhile, the significant rise of fairly extreme nationalist parties across europe is of considerable worry, though hardly unexpected in times of economic stress ...... turkey, poland, austria, france, hungary to name just a few and in no particular order

VICTIM - 23 May 2016 10:37 - 2151 of 12628

Freda I've said before Merkel is doing more damage to Europe than Hitler , Hitler was defeatable but Merkel is creating an impossible situation whereby she is turning Europe into Africa and the Middle East .

VICTIM - 23 May 2016 10:40 - 2152 of 12628

Impossible in that it can't be reversed .

will10 - 23 May 2016 10:55 - 2153 of 12628

Victim

Wow. One woman can move whole continents.!!?!
You stretch your point tooooo .... faaarrrrrrrrr! It's not possible.

VICTIM - 23 May 2016 10:59 - 2154 of 12628

Just look out the window .

MaxK - 23 May 2016 11:09 - 2155 of 12628

The thing is, Ma merkel doesent want a million, all she wants is the ability to cherry pick the best of em, and export the rest to everyone else.

will10 - 23 May 2016 11:09 - 2156 of 12628

Victim

Looking out window of Sainsbury cafe outside Stroud. Just see the carpark. Your point?

VICTIM - 23 May 2016 11:11 - 2157 of 12628

Gosh your funny .

cynic - 23 May 2016 11:13 - 2158 of 12628

breezy but sunny and the green trees are swaying :-)

2517GEORGE - 23 May 2016 11:17 - 2159 of 12628

The success of the EU can be judged by the rise of the far right. I wonder if Norbert Hofer is a descendant of the Austrian freedom fighter of the same name. Seems very apt somehow.
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grannyboy - 23 May 2016 11:18 - 2160 of 12628

Corbyn thinks the benefit of staying in the EU is his desire for mass immigration,

Just like the previous Labour government.

Other then that he's despised the EU over the last forty years for its lack
of democracy and accountability....But he's quite prepared to flood the country
with immigrants from low wage low educated countries!!.

As to Merkel moving continents...Yes quite true with her open door invitation to
the world, and no stretching of the point needed.....

2517GEORGE - 23 May 2016 11:29 - 2161 of 12628

The EU has been an economic disaster. Instead of inviting millions of economic migrants to Germany, Merkel should have invited the unemployed from Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece, this would have boosted EU GDP.
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VICTIM - 23 May 2016 11:37 - 2162 of 12628

George we will have no common sense on this board , you'll have to stop it .

2517GEORGE - 23 May 2016 11:44 - 2163 of 12628

Did she ask the other 27 member countries if it was ok to send out the invite, if not why not, and why aren't the leaders of the above mentioned countries not up in arms about it.
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VICTIM - 23 May 2016 11:53 - 2164 of 12628

Not just the EU members George , did she consult her own Government / people , i rather think not .

Fred1new - 23 May 2016 11:55 - 2165 of 12628

Granny's boy,

Have a look at the success rate of immigrants in universities and the % of overseas students doing successful postgraduate research.

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215,

Interesting point.

Why didn't or isn't that happening?

I suppose it is pay rate to "dole" and also poor skill levels.

Fred1new - 23 May 2016 11:57 - 2166 of 12628

Vicky,

Don't worry about Angela, you can always fall back on Theresa, the Cruella of the con party.

VICTIM - 23 May 2016 12:00 - 2167 of 12628

I don't worry about Angela but apparently a lot of Germans are .

2517GEORGE - 23 May 2016 12:00 - 2168 of 12628

Poor skill levels, I would have thought not, are the immigrants flooding in from these mainly 3rd world countries more likely to have the required skills?
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VICTIM - 23 May 2016 12:05 - 2169 of 12628

I've just seen a description of why the ftse is as it is , apparently there's a recession worry , now that would be nice , wonder what all our immigrants will turn to .
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