Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Victim

Looking out window of Sainsbury cafe outside Stroud. Just see the carpark. Your point?

Gosh your funny .

breezy but sunny and the green trees are swaying :-)

The success of the EU can be judged by the rise of the far right. I wonder if Norbert Hofer is a descendant of the Austrian freedom fighter of the same name. Seems very apt somehow.
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Corbyn thinks the benefit of staying in the EU is his desire for mass immigration,

Just like the previous Labour government.

Other then that he's despised the EU over the last forty years for its lack
of democracy and accountability....But he's quite prepared to flood the country
with immigrants from low wage low educated countries!!.

As to Merkel moving continents...Yes quite true with her open door invitation to
the world, and no stretching of the point needed.....

The EU has been an economic disaster. Instead of inviting millions of economic migrants to Germany, Merkel should have invited the unemployed from Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece, this would have boosted EU GDP.
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George we will have no common sense on this board , you'll have to stop it .

Did she ask the other 27 member countries if it was ok to send out the invite, if not why not, and why aren't the leaders of the above mentioned countries not up in arms about it.
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Not just the EU members George , did she consult her own Government / people , i rather think not .

Granny's boy,

Have a look at the success rate of immigrants in universities and the % of overseas students doing successful postgraduate research.

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215,

Interesting point.

Why didn't or isn't that happening?

I suppose it is pay rate to "dole" and also poor skill levels.

Vicky,

Don't worry about Angela, you can always fall back on Theresa, the Cruella of the con party.

I don't worry about Angela but apparently a lot of Germans are .

Poor skill levels, I would have thought not, are the immigrants flooding in from these mainly 3rd world countries more likely to have the required skills?
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I've just seen a description of why the ftse is as it is , apparently there's a recession worry , now that would be nice , wonder what all our immigrants will turn to .

don't forget there are a further 5 new applicants ....... Iceland, the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Turkey ....... make your own mind up as to whether you would want any of them to join your club

There were/are arguments that those who emigrated had more "drive" and "talent" and more likely to be "go getters".

I know many immigrants and it appears to me that many of them fit into those groups.

Look at the skill levels of Nurses and junior doctors etc.

I would prefer not to have the Polls.

no one has objected to workers with required skills having freedom to come here
the objection is the flood of unskilled, extended family members and the (minority of unknown quantity) criminal gangs and freeloaders who know how to work the system

I thought Albania was in there , another country with a Mafia type make up . Anyone is better than the English though aren't they Freda eh , never done anything have they .

Why bother with Fred ,he doesn't have a clue , most on here agree we have a problem ,there are just the odd one or two who don't get it.