moneyplus
- 23 Dec 2003 18:51
Anyone holding these? Evil K drove the price right down and now they seem to be recovering---are they worth considering now they seem to have sorted out their finances?
janetbennison
- 03 Oct 2006 17:33
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Hello frampton. I have read your thread and am taking note of it. I have had a really bad time just lately. My financial advisor did not advice me to sell goo when I did, I just panicked at the time. Then I decided to buy them back again. Unfortunatly at a higher price. They will now need to go up ot 17p for be to break even on that one. with regards to the others I still have them as well. Prty seems to be getting worse. I noticed a lot of buyers at the end of the day. I will see what happens tomorrow. Good luck to you.
hilary
- 03 Oct 2006 20:22
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Janet,
I've read some of your posts. I think you should change your financial advisor. With friends like him, you certainly don't need any enemies.
maestro
- 03 Oct 2006 21:38
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Frist welcomes Taliban after sneaking internet gambling measure into port security bill
U.S. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist pulled a "Taliban" of his own Friday night by sneaking unrelated internet gambling provisions into a port security bill while removing key measures that would secure the nation's mass transit system.
A number of Democrats were outraged and vehemently opposed the addition of the internet gambling measure but voted on the bill unanimously in order to ensure port security.
Democrats had accused Republicans of pushing the bill to placate its conservative base, particularly the religious right, before the November 7 congressional elections.
Frist spoke like a Taliban when he addressed online poker as "a serious addiction that undermines the family, dashes dreams, and frays the fabric of society".
While Frist was pursuing the scourge of online poker and its adverse affect on families, a colleague, Mark Foley, resigned after learning his sexually charged internet exchanges with a young male congressional page were about to go public. Foley today blamed his behavior on alcoholism. And here we were thinking his perversions may have been brought on by internet poker.
Bill Frist is currently listed with odds of 30-1 to become the next US President at Sportsbook.com.
Frist' ideal America?
More than 10% of the American public are believed to play poker online. The Powerful Poker Players Alliance urged its nearly 100,000 members not to vote for any politician who favored a ban on internet poker.
Frist' next bill: Women must cover up their faces?
Now for those of you who thought that Bill Frist acted in a sorta "Taliban-like" fashion this past Friday night.....put your seat belts on!
Bill Frist is calling for the Taliban to come back into power in Afghanistan.
The Associated Press reported Monday that U.S. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said the Afghan war against Taliban guerrillas can never be won militarily and urged support for efforts to bring "people who call themselves Taliban" and their allies into the government.
The Tennessee Republican said he learned from briefings that Taliban fighters were too numerous and had too much popular support to be defeated on the battlefield.
Afghanistan is suffering its heaviest insurgent attacks since a U.S.-led military force toppled the Taliban in late 2001 for harboring al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden.
According to an Associated Press count, based on reports from U.S., NATO and Afghan officials, at least 2,800 people have been killed nationwide so far this year. The count, which includes militants and civilians, is about 1,300 more than the toll for all of 2005.
Maybe Frist should stick to sticking provisions such as restrictions on internet gambling to bills where they do not belong instead of sticking his foot in his mouth. Next thing you know we'll have Talibans in the Senate.
David Goldstein of the Huffington Post explains the State of the Republicans under Bill Frist:
"Not since the 1919 Black Sox have we seen a more determined effort to throw a game than that of the current Republican leadership. The Keystone Cops routine performed by Hastert, Reynolds and Shimkus seems designed to exacerbate and extend the Foley scandal as much and as long as possible, while the stupidly self-destructive deflections of White House Press Secretary Tony "Naughty Emails" Snow and GOP surrogate blowhard Matt Drudge (blaming Foley's downfall on "these 16 and 17 year-old beasts") couldn't have been more outrageously scripted by the satirical mind of Jesus' General.
"If the GOP wants to ensure a Democratic sweep in November, this is exactly how to do it.
"Yet apparently, political ambition knows no bounds, for even in the midst of this unrelenting firestorm, the title of Republican Idiot King continues to draw stiff competition, most notably today from outgoing Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a man who has made a hobby of repeatedly dashing his presidential hopes on the rocks of his own political mediocrity.
"The point is that the GOP's number one man in the Senate could possibly be so stunningly, politically tone deaf."
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Christopher Costigan, www.gambling911.com
Originally published October 2, 2006 11:25 pm ET
HARRYCAT
- 03 Oct 2006 22:13
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What's your point maestro?
Do you support the opinions expressed above or are you feeling bitter about suffering losses.
maestro
- 03 Oct 2006 22:26
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harry..i hate all the yanks who are against freedom..nuke 'em!
megainvester
- 03 Oct 2006 22:28
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need to re employ Biladen to go after yanks
maestro
- 03 Oct 2006 22:41
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Sportingbet chief asks for support from United Kingdom and other online gambling jurisdictions
Sportingbet.com indicated on Tuesday it has every intention of staying in the US market following a bill passage late Friday that would limit some forms of online gambling transactions, specifically credit cards. The banking sector announced Monday that checks would be exempted.
But Sportingbet CEO, Nigel Payne, has asked for support from those countries who host online gambling operators such as his. He directed his Radio 4 comments more specifically to the United Kingdom, which begins licensing internet gambling businesses starting early 2007.
"We have the technological capability to carry on trading," Payne told BBC's Radio 4, adding, "The industry is just too vast ... and banks around the world don't take the same view as American legislature."
"(But) in the absence of tangible support from the U.K. government or the European Union, carrying on is much more difficult.
"There is the technology, but if the government doesn't say that this is absurd protectionism, then it's very difficult to carry on," said Payne.
Sportingbet, whose former non-executive chairman Peter Dicks was recently detained in the U.S. as the crackdown on gaming began, abandoned takeover talks with its smaller rival, World Gaming PLC (WGMGY), after Friday's move.
The news sent shares tumbling.
PartyGaming - the world's biggest online gaming company and a constituent of the FTSE 100 - closed at 45 pence, vastly below last year's initial public offer price of 116 pence. That company announced yesterday it would be leaving the US market.
Sportingbet ended at 66p, while 888 Holdings PLC (888.LN) closed at 108.25p. U.K. online money transfer company NETeller PLC (NLR.LN) also felt the heat, closing much lower on the day.
Analysts at Dresdner Kleinwort said: "We do not believe this [law] is the end game. This could be construed as a violation of civil rights and promoting a chilling effect on free speech in the US." Experts highlighted that the bill includes carve-outs for a number of other online gambling activities including horse racing, Indian tribes, intrastate activities and fantasy sports.
"This represents protectionism and is in contradiction of the World Trade Organisation ruling in the US versus Antigua and Barbuda case," said Dresdner. The WTO ruled in 2004 that the current US administration was infringing on the trade rights of Antiguan online gaming and poker sites.
Even the American Gaming Association, which represents the traditional casino industry in gambling mecca's like Las Vegas and Atlantic City, said the new bill was a "bad idea." AGA chief executive Frank Fahrenkopf said his group wanted a federal commission to study whether the technology exists to go after under-age gambling on the Internet while regulating and taxing above-board websites.
"I still think the next Congress will pass such a measure," he said.
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Gambling911.com News Wire
Originally published October 3, 2006 8:02 am ET
Pommy
- 04 Oct 2006 07:21
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Did anyone kill 5 Amish kids with an internet gaming casino chip bought with a credit card.
Of fucking course they didnt!!
Why dont those fucking yanks take one of their guns and shoot that conceited waaanker Bush. His religious crusade is worse than anything islam throw at us.
I dont hold gaming shares!
seawallwalker
- 04 Oct 2006 07:36
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Frampton
- 04 Oct 2006 09:32
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Hi Janet,
looking at GOO, with good news they could well get to 17p and beyond, so fingers crossed for you there.However, with these high risk shares you have to accept any bad news will also impact heavily on the price. Can you afford to take another loss, or will that finish you off? I hope some of your shares start moving in the right direction soon! (Be thankful you got rid of SBT last week).
janetbennison
- 04 Oct 2006 09:54
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on thursday last week I sold all my sbt one lot at 1.78 in the morning and 1.86and a quarter in the afternoon. a total of 17,097 shares. In the afternoon I sold 20,000 prty at 1.05 per share. This left me hold 80,000 prty. A pity I did not sell the lot. I am devasted at a my loss on prty. I do not think I am on my own. I have never been to America, and now this has happened, I do not think I will ever want to go there. My shares are doing terrible at the moment. must go now.
hilary
- 04 Oct 2006 09:58
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I wouldn't worry about going to America, Janet. I think they're only looking to arrest senior executives of online gambling firms. The ordinary shareholders are probably quite safe.
:o)
TheMaster
- 04 Oct 2006 12:51
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Bought in this week, as oversold and the house broker did state previously that the SBT were worth 150p without the USA income.
The sector will be consolidated now and SBT were this year being watched by other gaming companies with a view to a buy out.
janetbennison
- 04 Oct 2006 13:02
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I have heard the same about takeovers in the gaming companies yesterday rumours going around the stock exchange, but they do not think this will happen till later on in the year. If I hear any more on this then I will let you know.
HARRYCAT
- 04 Oct 2006 13:21
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Consolidation may therefore be an arguement for hanging on to your stock instead of realising a big loss.
Fortunately, I sold most of my SBT before the bad news, but still hold some. If they were to be re-issued as ?????? (Maybe 888) then that would not be such a bad outcome. So long as they don't become worthless, of course, which is another possibilty, though unlikely imo.
TheMaster
- 04 Oct 2006 14:37
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Things are about to get a whole lot better with the US banks on our side!
'The Independent Community Bankers of America (ICBA), a leading trade group in Washington D.C., is fighting against the proposed law that would block electronic transfers between U.S. gamblers and Internet casinos, Onlinecasinocrawler.com has learned.
"ICBA recognizes the concerns that some of your colleagues have raised about Internet gambling," a spokesman for ICBA said. "We urge Congress to recognize that the nation's banks have already taken on major responsibilities to help detect and prevent terrorist financing and illegal money laundering. Attempting to monitor and block gambling transactions, particularly given the limits of the current payment technology, could detract from those efforts."
A letter voicing these, and other, concerns, was presented to Senate Banking Committee Chairman Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) and Senate Judiciary Chairman Arlen Specter (R-Pa.). A copy of which was provided to Onlinecasinocrawler.com
The association said that smaller banks simply do not have the capability to stop gamblers from using paper-checks to move money into gambling accounts. The proposed law might require them to do so, however.
Although the Internet Gambling Prohibition and Enforcement Act (IGPEA) would require more regulation of banks, the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department would have to devise a way to make complying with the law not overly burdensome, said Rep. Jim Leach (R-Iowa), sponsor of the bill in the U.S. House of Representatives.
Constant Updates
Banks, if the law was passed, would need a continually updated lists of names of online casino operations to comply with the law, somewhat akin to what is done to monitor payments to alleged terrorist organizations and would-be drug dealers.
According to the ICBA, unlike credit card transactions, which include a code that identifies the type of business receiving payment, uncoded transactions -- electronic payments and personal checks -- don't provide this information. Though it's feasible to monitor and block certain types of credit card transactions, a bank cant do so with completely uncoded transactions.
Another reason the ICBA opposes the bill is that the legislation will subject banks and electronic processors to criminal liability for routine processing of financial transactions which today is their core business operation'
TheMaster
- 04 Oct 2006 20:23
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Lots of buys after the bell today, perhaps tomorrow we will find out why.
cynic
- 04 Oct 2006 20:38
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could very easily be bears locking in profits
maestro
- 04 Oct 2006 20:41
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why don't they investigate put options a few days before 911...i bet Frist had a few on airline stocks along with Bush and his cronies
HARRYCAT
- 04 Oct 2006 21:59
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maestro - Let go mate! It will only eat you up inside!!!