Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Looks like Oscar Pistorius is going to be granted bail.

Hays,

You must visit your optician sometime as your tinted glasses have developed cracks in the lenses.

Look and the man's game and see how many players are as you stated.

Manufacturing false statements once again comes to mind.

Pistorius - whether he is granted bail or not, it is murder. If it was pre-meditated or not, it's still murder. The gun culture in South Africa sounds almost as bad as in the USA.

Bail given at £20,00 until June

shut up fred :-) ..... btw, sure "the man's game" is rugby league!

hays - quite rightly, prof footballers have aspirations for their children, and perceive that private education will help them along the way - not necessarily true as it happens .....

for fred and his ilk to get all huffy-puffy about such things is humbug ..... the world isn't and never has been or will be "fair", which is why this present school culture that no one is allowed to fail, whether in exams or sport is nothing more than pandering to the utopians ..... that does not mean to say that "society" should not try to up-grade education systems etc to give everyone a better chance in life - should they choose to take it - whereas the current trend is dumb down ..... that is why unis are now full of the unmerited studying (perhaps a misnomer) for worthless degrees with which they haven't a hope in hell of finding a decent job

doodlebug - agreed, but it was a racing certainty that he would get bail.

Is that because he is a runner?

Take his blades away and I could beat him.




(Not really sure about that.) 8-)

But at the trial he won't have a leg to stand on.

I wonder if it had been the other way round whether his girlfriend would have been granted bail.

Now there's a good idea!!!


Mr Pistorius is next due in court on 4 June but his trial may not be for many months. Magistrate Desmond Nair also ordered him to give up all his firearms as a condition of bail.

Cyners,

I don't know if I'm missing your point or not.

All I can offer is my personal experience with my own children which is that the supposed 'best' state schools around Nelson Mandela Towers are populated with the offspring of chavs. Everyone plays the same game and, as I'm sure you know, money can't buy class. Although we positioned ourselves so that our children would get into those schools if all else failed, they fortunately both passed their respective admissions tests for selective grammars in the neighbouring borough and we were spared them having to mix with the numpties. Unfortunately, a couple of my friends' children weren't so fortunate, and my friends were permanently bitching about the bad influence of the other children.

Not knowing where your son lives, I can't say whether the same scenario applies round his neck of the bois.

I would suggest the influence of the parents is more formative, unless they are inadequate.

hils - i don't really know; he lives in a "nice" town in north yorks, but for sure there are some rougher areas there too ..... the biggest prob with the pupils of many comp schools is the lack of discipline and aspiration that has been instilled (clearly not!) by their parents ...... thus, many children of such upbringing will have a propensity towards disruption and a disinterest in learning and getting on in life

generally, children who go to selective schools of all types come from families who have aspirations for their children and are (much more) likely to have done such basic things as reading to their children at a very early age ..... this has very little or anything to do with affluence

Nelson Mandela was locked up for 27 years and I don't think actually he murdered anyone. Pistorius would probably be safer in prison right now rather than being out on bail. If he was supposedly terrified for his own safety before he must be sh------g himself now - and presumably he no longer has a gun underneath his bed to defend himself with.

i just find it appalling that the SA public seems to be batting for him and not for his victim

He has to live with relatives. They can have guns of course. He is banned from his home.

Cyners,

I don't think the comprehensive problem is due to lack of aspiration. There are both good and bad comprehensives in every borough and, in our borough, people are prepared to spend £2m or £3m on a house just so they can get their kids into what is perceived to be a good school.

It seems to me that the desire is certainly there to get the best for one's kids, but the application is lacking. In that respect, you're right in that time spent with a child during his or her formative years is invaluable. A lot of parents, once they've got their kids into a good school, seem to think their job is done. For instance, mothers will go back to work and allow their children to turn into latchkey kids and get up to all kinds of mischief in their absence. When your own kids inevitably mix with those oiks, it's difficult to prevent some bad habits from rubbing off.

As I say, they're my personal observations from what I've witnessed around Nelson Mandela Towers. Hopefully things will prove different for your son in north Yorkshire. I'm sure that the pace of life is slower and there is greater emphasis placed on more traditional family values.

If he decides to do a runner, I'd like to know who'll be able to catch him. :)

Consumer spending is one of the main areas that can help drag this country out of the financial mess it is in.
How can this government expect people to spend when energy costs are so high.
Once again I have had to reduce my outgoings due to my monthly energy bill going up from £97 to £144, and I am with the cheapest supplier in the UK.
The energy companies use the excuse that they require higher prices in order to enable them to improve the infrastructure and for greener fuels.
Whilst partly accepting this, the excuse won't wash as every year their profits go up by double figures.
As for OFGEM, they are a waste of space.

He has pissed off the police and if they saw him doing a runner they would probably shoot him.


I had a friend who lived in Nigeria working for a European company. He went ask about a driving licence. The policeman just said give me some cash (about £10). He warned him that if he knocked down anyone not to stop. If you have just hurt the person they might get up and would probably kill him. If the person was dead then there would be no point in stopping. In either case don't stop.