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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 23 Feb 2013 12:21 - 21770 of 81564

George is just continuing the RIGHT policies. Complaining from Labour faithful will not have any effect.

dreamcatcher - 23 Feb 2013 12:22 - 21771 of 81564

Waste - you will have to ask the labour party about that, come to think of it they do not know the meaning of the word. :-))

dreamcatcher - 23 Feb 2013 12:23 - 21772 of 81564

George is going to have to shift up a gear but has the right policy.

dreamcatcher - 23 Feb 2013 12:28 - 21773 of 81564

Please read below Fred and your comments please.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1285745/Labours-1-3-TRILLION-spending-spree-How-millions-wasted.html

Fred1new - 23 Feb 2013 12:47 - 21774 of 81564

DYOH.

hilary - 23 Feb 2013 12:55 - 21775 of 81564

Cyners,

It might sound tenuous, but these are proven policies used by successive past administrations. You might find these links useful:

AEP on currency wars

Inflation - the ultimate stealth tax - an American article, but the concept is universal

dreamcatcher - 23 Feb 2013 12:59 - 21776 of 81564

Put that in your pipe and smoke it Fred, labour they were great. :-))


cynic - 23 Feb 2013 12:59 - 21777 of 81564

fred isn't "labour faithful"; he doesn't vote at all even for the party he thinks is least worst ..... frankly, he's all mouth and trousers and is only capable of wailing and wringing his hands ..... if curing any country's problems of whatever kind was a simple exercise in manipulating or changing this and that, then it would be done in a trice

even gordon brown (not to be confused with george of that ilk) didn't intentionally bankrupt the country ..... with hindsight, he just got it all totally and utterly wrong bequeathing the present crew an augean stable

on the other hand, denis healey certainly got it right, though assuredly many of his policies at the time were more than unpopular ...... he was also ultimately and very correctly highly critical of "slimeball bambi"

cynic - 23 Feb 2013 13:01 - 21778 of 81564

hilary ..... many gov'ts try that stunt, but it never lasts for long ..... i know you're old enough to have seen it often enough :-)

dreamcatcher - 23 Feb 2013 13:04 - 21779 of 81564

And you talk about the Cons looking after their mates, with a 14bn figure above . Do me a favour. lol

Fred1new - 23 Feb 2013 13:20 - 21780 of 81564

Dreams,

Seems a more and more appropriate pseudonym for you.

The image you posted does remind me of the policies of the two barrow boys in charge at the moment.

The dump Osborne in favour of Vince group within the cons party is getting stronger.

The valuation of money spent is yours.

However, I would suggest you make a flow chart of how this present government is spending tax payer's money ineffectively and whose pockets that money is going in the hope that it bolsters their position.

Promises, promises, promises, broken, defeat.

Fred1new - 23 Feb 2013 13:24 - 21781 of 81564

But it is good to see the tory party still have adherents to their latest party lines.

That is until the next u-bend turn!

Is the "boss" still away?

Haystack - 23 Feb 2013 13:27 - 21782 of 81564

fred
What nonsense you spout. There is no move,went in the party to replace Osborne with Cable. The idea is absurd. Firstly Cable agrees with Osborne and secondly the party would only accept a Conservative in that post.

dreamcatcher - 23 Feb 2013 13:32 - 21783 of 81564

Haystack - 23 Feb 2013 13:39 - 21784 of 81564

I you want to see what happens when a someone follows their beliefs in state education then read this terrible story by Jonathan Miller's son about the terrible education he and his sister had, even though their father could have sent them to the best schools. Even his father regrets the choice. At least he is paying for his grand children's education.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1145243/Atrocious-lessons-daily-bullying--I-wont-send-children-state-school.html

hilary - 23 Feb 2013 13:54 - 21785 of 81564

Cyners,

Please point me to where I suggested it was a long-term fix.

Central banks and governments would normally counter excessive inflation by raising interest rates, but there's no hope of the BoE doing that at the moment as they're no doubt almost certainly happy to witness high inflation and weak sterling. The conservative's sole interest will be in putting enough plasters on the cuts to see them home and dry for another term in 2015.

And if you're curious about the apparent strength of the euro at the moment, I'd suggest it's because, unlike other central banks, the ECB don't have any mandate as a lender of last resort. As much as they'd like to weaken the euro, there are no mechanisms in place for quantative easing within the EZ. The closest thing they've got is the EFSF which allows them to buy the bonds of problematic states.

cynic - 23 Feb 2013 14:03 - 21786 of 81564

thanks for the enlightenment hilary, though in historical terms inflation remains very low (no doubt you'll correct that too!) ..... it'll be interesting to see where sterling stands against both the euro and the dollar in 2 years time .... for better or worse, almost none of our income is in sterling - it's primarily $ with a reasonable smattering of €

hilary - 23 Feb 2013 14:33 - 21787 of 81564

What's more important than the physical level of inflation, is the number in relative terms.

Currently at 2.7%, inflation is above target (2.0%) and above GDP growth (+ or - sfa%). It's also above earnings growth which is why Greekman is complaining about his recent duel-fuel bill, and it's why I said previously that it's nothing more than a stealth tax used by governments to devalue the level of national debt.

cynic - 23 Feb 2013 14:47 - 21788 of 81564

with regard to inflation vs gdp, surely that was often if not usually the case in the past .... the time we all really got mangled was in the early 80s with high everything, including astronomic interest rates ..... at that time, i ran a little brasserie and we were having to raise prices 3-4 times a year .... i reckon that in a great many ways, those were far worse times

Haystack - 23 Feb 2013 15:13 - 21789 of 81564

The Euro is higher than sterling because their interests rates are higher and investors are buying Euros in particular to invest in German banks. It is ones of the side effects of a unified currency but an non-unified political system across the EU.
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