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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


oblomov - 24 Oct 2006 10:17 - 21774 of 27111

Alan,

I dont think were so much disagreeing as attempting to arrive at the truth via different routes!

I note your post above relates to a US case and sets out US law and I assume the agreement would have to be covered by US law.

Reading a little from other sources about LOIs, it seems that a time limit is usually included and the intent can lapse when the limit is reached - no notice from either party being necessary.

Commitment to a Time Line: An LOI will set forth a time line for negotiations, including a deadline for closing the deal and what will occur if the parties fail to meet the deadline.

Link here:

http://www.coollawyer.com/webfront/internet_law_library/articles/law_library_letter_of_intent_article.php


There are binding and non-binding items - we dont know the balance of those in SEOs LOIs, but it says here LOIs are typically non-binding, except for certain limited terms such as confidentiality, exclusivity, and allocation of costs and expenses. As the Southern District of New Yorks recent decision in Beekman Investment Partners, L.P. v. '
Link here: http://www.reedsmith.com/library/search_library.cfm?FaArea1=CustomWidgets.content_view_1&cit_id=8047


However, even well drafted letters of this kind (the ones that we produce!) can be very difficult to construe if a dispute arises later on. They are to be avoided if at all possible'
Link here:
http://www.collyerbristow.com/Default.aspx?sID=88&cID=278&ctID=43&lID=0



Final word from a Barrister, from link below, But please don't give up the endless letters of intent. They keep many happy families well-clothed and snug in these winter months. Clothed in wigs and gowns, of course.


http://www.tonybingham.co.uk/column/1999/19991203.htm


hewittalan6 - 24 Oct 2006 10:27 - 21775 of 27111

I chose the yank ones because I believe the LOI are with yank companys. Again, no evidence I can quote on here to support that.
I feel confident, I really do, but each to make his own decision, on his own research. I understand garys take on being cynical, and he echoes much of what i feel, but I feel happy with my holding once more, and look forward, as Tony says, to an interesting end to October and start to November.
We done well though, oblo. Views aired, facts found, disagreements(?) published and we are yet to call each other names!! Collectable.
Alan

sellsell - 24 Oct 2006 10:33 - 21776 of 27111

alan, do you have any further info that makes you more comfortable?

hewittalan6 - 24 Oct 2006 10:44 - 21777 of 27111

Nothing I haven't already put on here.
In summary, Asda are committed. Wal-Mart want it. There are a minimum of 2 MMU's waiting to happen (according to SEO). Serious money men are happy to put 12 million into a company on the verge of bankruptcy and with no firm orders. French investment funds and miners pension funds are buying up stock at a higher price that I can buy for now and next week. If you do the sums, very few Starpol contracts equates to a much higher SP than now, and that has not even started on GS and all the other stuff that may come.
The downside?? None of this is getting confirmed by SEO and we are all fed up to the teeth of over promising from the management. SEO have no money left and there is an EGM next week.
Strangely, we all complain about SEO promises, yet when they shut up and say nowt, we complain even more!! What would we do if they published the details of the contracts and then they failed to finalise them??? We would crucify them, yet we moan when they refuse to give us details.
I don't feel sorry for them, they have brought this on themselves, but they are in a no win situation these days regarding offering news.
DYOR, as always, and SEO are still a gamble, though IMHO, the upside is as great as ever and the downside appears to be diminishing. After all, those putting up all that cash are not going to let it go bust if at all possible.
Alan

bhunt1910 - 24 Oct 2006 10:47 - 21778 of 27111

Keep on talking guys - the sp has just popped up - maybe you can talk it up some more !!

oblomov - 24 Oct 2006 10:55 - 21779 of 27111


Alan, at the risk of again attempting to arrive at the truth via a different route to your goodself, might I say we wouldn't need to ask SEO for details if it weren't for the fact that everything they put out is ambiguous and as clear as mud!

bhunt1910 - 24 Oct 2006 11:02 - 21780 of 27111

My response from SEO was exactly the same as Alans - despite the fact that I pointed out that their last statement specifically mentioned that contracts were under discussion and LOI's were in place. They would not even confirm that the original statement was still true/current !

ths - 24 Oct 2006 13:41 - 21781 of 27111

The news must be so massive that they are scared to even open the door a crack !

bhunt1910 - 24 Oct 2006 14:10 - 21782 of 27111

A flurry of purchases just in ??

greekman - 24 Oct 2006 14:46 - 21783 of 27111

Bhunt,
In the event that the original statement is still true/current there is no requirement to confirm it, so SEO having in the past inundated us with needless news releases, are imho confirming it by not confirming it, if you follow me (by their silence).
If anything had changed, that is surely when they would have to put out a release.
No news is very frustrating, but thats how I read it.

bhunt1910 - 24 Oct 2006 14:49 - 21784 of 27111

Greekman - I agree with your logic - so why would they not confirm that there had been no change in the publicly stated position when I asked them?

oblomov - 24 Oct 2006 14:58 - 21785 of 27111


Greek, then why did they confirm the numerous other points by putting them in the Prospectus?

greekman - 24 Oct 2006 15:02 - 21786 of 27111

Again just an opinion, but they appear to have put a blanket policy out on answering E-Mails, IE wait for general news releases. My feeling (and that is all it is without anything to back it up) is that as soon as the funding is finalized, and the vote pasted news will follow almost immediately. I am only putting this down to the reasoning of my previous post 21783.
If I am wrong those who will come out gunning for me will be wasting their time as I will probably have shot myself, to save the wife the trouble.
After my last buy of SEO, I heard her on the phone discussing contracts. She kept referring to someone called, Dead eye Mcgurk and 10,000 was mentioned. I looked at the SEO web site but can't find him in the list of directors. Still nice to know she's taking an interest in the possible contracts and looking to buy shares in her own name.

greekman - 24 Oct 2006 15:17 - 21787 of 27111

Oblomov,

The prospectus had to contain all the information to enable us poor punters to make the decision re the offer. They could not be selective in such a document and everything that was relevant to the offer had to be stated. That is what made it the most honest piece of info put out by SEO, warts and all.

bhunt1910 - 24 Oct 2006 15:18 - 21788 of 27111

tee hee

ths - 24 Oct 2006 15:19 - 21789 of 27111

Yeah, gm, I am following the same strategy although I learned a few years ago not to let the wife know about any 'dead certs' dealing

oblomov - 24 Oct 2006 15:31 - 21790 of 27111


Greek, we're going round in circles - thats where I came in saying everything is in the prospectus but the kitchen sink AND any mention of the LOI's.

I rest my case!

greekman - 24 Oct 2006 15:56 - 21791 of 27111

OB,

OK we are basically in agreement (I think).
I must admit there was so much info in the prospectus, I read it at least 3 times and still can't quote anywhere near chapter and verse.

greekman - 24 Oct 2006 16:04 - 21792 of 27111

Both my screens are showing last trade at 1443hrs, Now is that strange or what.
I can't believe that over 1 hour has elapsed since a trade. Are the mms holding some deals back for some reason.

bhunt1910 - 24 Oct 2006 16:08 - 21793 of 27111

nice 3m buys just gone through
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