mitzy
- 15 Apr 2008 12:27
Recent problems with the new T5 Terminal at Heathrow have resulted in more problems for BA when will they recover their No1 position.
halifax
- 12 Nov 2009 14:18
- 218 of 327
BA+IBERIA= 1 LARGE DUD LOSSMAKING AIRLINE, this merger solves none of their problems, it merely delays the inevitable.
cynic
- 12 Nov 2009 14:21
- 219 of 327
hello Happy Larry ..... does that mean you are shorting BAY? ..... a lot of what you write is good stuff, but sometimes, as here, you talk as big a load of codswallop as i do!
per the 5 year chart below, 240 would look to be the immediate short term obstacle, with 280 etc as and when or if sp gets that far
cynic
- 12 Nov 2009 14:38
- 220 of 327
some more stuff via Reuters
Following are some key facts about the potential new carrier:
-- Aircraft: 408 aircraft (BA 244; Iberia 164*)
-- Destinations: 259 airports (BA 150; Iberia 109)
-- Passengers per year: 61.5 million (33 million, Iberia 28.5 million*)
-- Staff: 63,600 (BA 42,000; Iberia 21,600)
-- Turnover (2009E**): $21.65 billion (BA 8.9 bln stg; Iberia 4.6 bln eur)
-- Pretax profit (2009E**): BA 401 mln stg pretax loss; Iberia 228.8 mln euro loss)
RATIONALE
-- Greater financial muscle and more routes to compete with European giants Air France-KLM and Lufthansa
-- Cost savings and greater buying power on fuel, aircraft, IT and other products that analysts estimate is worth some 550 million euros a year through to 2015.
-- Very few overlapping routes. Iberia has the biggest share of the Europe-Latin America market, while BA is the leading airline on North Atlantic routes and has strong Europe-Asia connections
-- Ends BA's two-year chase for Iberia. Fulfils Iberia's long-time desire for consolidation
cynic
- 12 Nov 2009 14:41
- 221 of 327
while the above by no means solves all the underlying problems, it goes a long way towards doing so, and that is before the inevitable consolidation of personnel etc and other significant savings through economy of scale
meanwhile, as the recesssion seems to be drawing to a close, there will be an increase in air traffic as the months pass - i.e. look 12 months hence
skinny
- 12 Nov 2009 15:25
- 222 of 327
I don't really care about the outcome - but I've taken 10 points from these today.
halifax
- 12 Nov 2009 16:03
- 223 of 327
Another classic disaster in the making.... bigger is not better.
cynic
- 12 Nov 2009 16:15
- 224 of 327
no one said it was .... did you have a bad oyster at lunchtime?
skinny
- 12 Nov 2009 16:18
- 225 of 327
And another +3 short.
cynic
- 12 Nov 2009 16:25
- 226 of 327
i would have liked to have seen sp stay above 220, but never mind ..... i shall continue to hold for the time being and shall see what the press has to say ..... overall, i should think it will be quite positive, both for the merger itself and for air traffic outlook in general
m8 halifax has gone all huffy-puffy about BAY, but that is similarly true of TLW ..... not that all my faves come up smelling of roses by any means, but it's fun to tease the shoddy-maker
halifax
- 12 Nov 2009 16:45
- 227 of 327
cynic sticks and stones etc. do try to act your assumed age.
cynic
- 12 Nov 2009 16:48
- 228 of 327
don't be so dull even though i know many yorkshiremen find it difficult to be more cheery than dour at best .... anyway, i like being peter pan or being in second childhood - i don't really differentiate
thought you might decide to expound on the ancient craft of shoddy-making, but clearly not
halifax
- 12 Nov 2009 17:12
- 229 of 327
BA has been badly managed since Lord King retired,we now have a CEO used to running a small Irish airline but over the past 4 years has proved incapable of solving the ever increasing problems. Do we really think a merger with a Spanish airline is going to solve these problems especially after the debacle with the opening of terminal 5 and the way the Spanish run BAA?
The solution is obvious, downsize the airline, focus on the high net worth business and leave the dross to Easyjet and Ryanair. The proposed merger will not solve the union problems and huge retrenchment will cost the merged company more than shareholders can afford when both airlines are loss making.
cynic
- 12 Nov 2009 17:23
- 230 of 327
we shall see .... meanwhile, if sp rises merely because it's a full moon, i shall not care
btw, i would never ever fly Ryanair having seen the appalling way it treats its customers and does its very best to avoid and evade tackling problems they (the customers) may have - e.g. lost luggage and similar ..... that man (whatever his name) is a disgrace, and no doubt in due course all will come home to roost
halifax
- 12 Nov 2009 17:26
- 231 of 327
cynic why should the Irish treat the British any other way?
cynic
- 12 Nov 2009 17:35
- 232 of 327
the specific guy concerned - a friend of mine - is actually half Scottish and half Danish!
to get Ryanair to compensate for sending his golf clubs to Las Palmas instead of Prestwick, he ultimately had to take out a Small Claims action in Dublin ..... Ryanair then crumbled instantly
halifax
- 12 Nov 2009 17:45
- 233 of 327
cynic and you don,t know his name?
cynic
- 12 Nov 2009 17:53
- 234 of 327
can't be bothered to look it up
halifax
- 12 Nov 2009 18:06
- 235 of 327
cynic you don't know the name of your friend?
halifax
- 12 Nov 2009 18:18
- 236 of 327
cynic perhaps you are confused the founder of Ryanair is Christy Ryan, the current CEO is Michael O' Leary, less bullshit please!
cynic
- 12 Nov 2009 18:35
- 237 of 327
i care not who heads up Ryanair or even that they're Irish of some hue; it's their total lack of scruples and business ethics which i find so contemptible